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BristolUK

Jul 13th 2013 3:44 pm

Re: PR's don't want to pledge

How about pledging to Tim Hortons? That would probably be more appropriate.

All those non believers...would you apply then? :rofl::rofl:

Novocastrian

Jul 13th 2013 6:15 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10798418)

How about pledging to Tim Hortons? That would probably be more appropriate.

All those non believers...would you apply then? :rofl::rofl:

Oh, yes. I believe in capitalism. Possibly.

Actually this thread has a lot in common with Timmies, it's distasteful, very Canadian, pointless and out of date.

BristolUK

Jul 13th 2013 7:05 pm

Re: PR's don't want to pledge

What happens if England plays a world cup game (rugby or football) against Canada?

Does one risk losing citizenship by supporting England? Or will siding with Canada at the next Commonwealth Games absolve one from any action?

;)

Jingsamichty

Jul 13th 2013 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10798571)

Just pretend you're Scottish.

caretaker

Jul 13th 2013 10:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10798537)

Oh, yes. I believe in capitalism. Possibly.

Actually this thread has a lot in common with Timmies, it's distasteful, very Canadian, pointless and out of date.

Ich bin ein Bearclaw! Rules are rules.

BristolUK

Jul 13th 2013 10:35 pm

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 10798724)

Rules are rules.

Where would we be if they'd never been changed?

We'd still be hanging people for stealing sheep, no votes for women, nor indeed men unless they owned land (that was how it used to be wasn't it?) national service, medical treatment only for those who can pay, segregation, slave ownership, the workhouse, unmarried mums locked up..........

Steve_

Jul 14th 2013 12:33 am

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Originally Posted by scribe123 (Post 10797391)

And before people start to say she's just a figurehead, in the UK she has an incredible amount of power (not sure about canada). Now if she exercised that power to the full extent I'm sure there would be a revolution, but none the less, she has a lot of power.

She has zero power, the last time a monarch refused to sign a bill (which is about the only real power she still has) was when Queen Victoria refused to sign a bill dealing with Catholic rights back in the 1870s, iirc from school (i'm sure it's on the web somewhere).

There wouldn't be a revolution, Parliament would just strip the power pdq if the Queen ever dared to use it.

Steve_

Jul 14th 2013 12:34 am

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Anyway personally I have no problem with the oath at all, the main thing I like about it is that it is short, so the limitations of my French pronunciation were not too obvious. :lol:

haggis88

Jul 14th 2013 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10798734)

national service, unmarried mums locked up..........

only two i'd bring back :thumbup:

mdizzle

Jul 14th 2013 6:18 am

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The whole concept of pledging allegiance to a monarch in this day and age is utterly bizarre. I'm sure she's a nice old woman and all that but I feel no "allegiance" to her whatsoever and I do have sympathy with their views. However, it wouldn't really bother me too much and I would just take the stupid oath anyway.

scribe123

Jul 14th 2013 6:31 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 10798801)

Amongst other things, she has the power to declare war and send our troops to fight it (she does command them after all) , to dissolve a government and personally choose the next, and to put something into law without it going through parliament or the Lords (amongst other things as I said).

Shard

Jul 14th 2013 9:23 am

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Too many responses on here are along the lines of "that's how we have always done it - take it or leave it," when in fact the oath is an anachronism and there are genuine reasons to object to it.

cjones

Jul 14th 2013 10:43 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10799251)

Too many responses on here are along the lines of "that's how we have always done it - take it or leave it," when in fact the oath is an anachronism and there are genuine reasons to object to it.

But to be honest, so is the whole charade of a citizenship ceremony. What does it actually represent other than an opportunity to relieve you of a couple of hundred bucks?

All hail Liz, all hail Harper, all hail Justin Bieber?.. Really, it's just depressing that anyone would seriously give a toss?...

bats	Jul 14th 2013 1:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10799251)

Too many responses on here are along the lines of "that's how we have always done it - take it or leave it," when in fact the oath is an anachronism and there are genuine reasons to object to it.

But that is the Canadian way.

BristolUK

Jul 14th 2013 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 10799568)

But that is the Canadian way.

You beat me to it.

(Although it's an argument frequently put forward by my mum too.)

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