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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
she was the last heir to inherit the throne is what i meant to say
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it :lol: |
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by scribe123
(Post 10797384)
If I want citizenship in Canada and was eeligible then I'd have to do it, but that part of the oath would be a somewhat........ Empty pledge.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
I read about this situation this morning.
How long has this requirement to pledge and oath to the Queen been part of the process? I'm guessing a fair few years. If you want to become a Citizen, take the pledge, if you don't want to pledge, don't expect to be given special dispensation. Rules are rules people! As others have said, it's not as if this is some big secret, the application guide mentions what will happen, so if you object to it, why apply in the first place? |
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by haggis88
(Post 10797590)
she was the last heir to inherit the throne is what i meant to say
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it :lol: |
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 10797689)
I believe the present queen is actually a descendent of Mary Queen of Scots.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by haggis88
(Post 10797695)
like i say, i can't remember much about it, but i'm pretty sure the rightful descendants were from a completely different line of lineage to oor Betty Queen
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by scribe123
(Post 10797384)
It's funny from a point of view as I used to be quite the royalist, but then I had children and decided to be against anyone holding a position the my children couldn't attain through hard work and dedication.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10797710)
I think the Royal Family serve to remind us that life isn't fair, that hard work and dedication will never be as valuable as good connections and that we should limit our aspirations to those reasonable for ourselves. This isn't America.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 10797459)
Actually, no you haven't. The oath is allegiance to the Queen of Canada not the Queen of Great Britain, Northern Ireland,etc etc. They may be the same person but the meaning is different.
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10797452)
Quite. I found it strange being asked to swear an oath of loyalty to her when I was already supposed to be loyal as a result of being born on her lands.
Mrs. JonboyE had to swear an oath of loyalty twice. Once to become British and again to become Canadian. She is obviously twice as loyal as me. At least she doesn't throw things at the TV whenever it mentions the impending birth. Interesting though that the oath is to the Queen of Canada... In that case it is really an Oath to Canada rather that the Queen per se... Unless Betty has multiple personalities... Lol |
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by cjones
(Post 10797672)
You could even cross your fingers behind your back while doing it, if that would make you feel better.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by scribe123
(Post 10797926)
They let you do that? Phew, I thought they'd surround you with armed guards watching for any false actions. :D
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Iirc every monarch since Henry VI is decsended from John of Gaunt (might be wrong Henry, I deal more with their bones than their history! :s)
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by scribe123
(Post 10797926)
They let you do that? Phew, I thought they'd surround you with armed guards watching for any false actions. :D
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 10797581)
Using that same analogy, PRs and
I'm not bothered either way - apart from believing that PR's (with a qualification period) should be able to vote without the need of citizenship. d. On these three dissenters...evidently some lawyer was plain bored and looking for a bit of airtime, but the sad sods who were the only three stooges he could find were completely risible. The woman who said the she couldn't support the Queen because the UK was "the leader of the slave trade" had me cringing. My worry is that Canada won't just say Bye-bye, but will start hand wringing and look for some loophole to accommodate them. |
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
If they won't play by Canadian rules, you should send them back to Long Kesh and Abu Ghraib to learn some manners.
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