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Re: PM Boris
Since Johnson became PM he's lost 6 out of 6 votes in the House of Commons, and had a Supreme Court ruling against him by 11-0.
I wonder what will happen once the honeymoon period is over? |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12739340)
Since Johnson became PM he's lost 6 out of 6 votes in the House of Commons, and had a Supreme Court ruling against him by 11-0.
I wonder what will happen once the honeymoon period is over? a) He gets a deal that he can put to Parliament by mid-October? b)He prorogues Parliament again? c) He undermines the letter Parliament have insisted he writes to the EU? d) He resigns? e) He does something else? |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12739346)
What is likely now:
a) He gets a deal that he can put to Parliament by mid-October? b)He prorogues Parliament again? c) He undermines the letter Parliament have insisted he writes to the EU? d) He resigns? e) He does something else? |
Re: PM Boris
Poor old Boris, I expect the last time he felt this sore was when he was roasted as a fag at Eton!
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Re: PM Boris
Boris is Pitt the Younger from Blackadder III, and I'll not have anyone convince me otherwise.
'It doesn't surprise me, sir, I know your sort. Once, it was I who stood in the big, cold schoolroom, a hot crumpet burning my cheeks with shame ...' |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12739346)
What is likely now:
a) He gets a deal that he can put to Parliament by mid-October? b) He prorogues Parliament again? c) He undermines the letter Parliament have insisted he writes to the EU? d) He resigns? e) He does something else? g) Second Referendum? I think most of the rabbits have been pulled from the hat, in fact there are probably only a few small bunnies left scrabbling around waiting to be thrown to the audience. But we have two audiences, Leave and Remain, and each will see the Supreme Court ruling completely differently. Remain will view the ruling as confirmation that their cause is just but they shouldn't appear too triumphalistic, a difficult thing for MPs to keep under control. Leave will view this as yet another brick prized out from the democratic wall by the establishment to frustrate brexit. Most people won't understand the reasons behind the decision, but what they will understand will be used by both sides to confirm their points of view. |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12739346)
What is likely now:
a) He gets a deal that he can put to Parliament by mid-October? b)He prorogues Parliament again? c) He undermines the letter Parliament have insisted he writes to the EU? d) He resigns? e) He does something else? |
Re: PM Boris
Can't wait to see the headlines in the Mail & Express tomorrow.
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Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Expatrick
(Post 12739447)
Can't wait to see the headlines in the Mail & Express tomorrow.
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Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 12739442)
f) Vote of no confidence?
g) Second Referendum? I think most of the rabbits have been pulled from the hat, in fact there are probably only a few small bunnies left scrabbling around waiting to be thrown to the audience. But we have two audiences, Leave and Remain, and each will see the Supreme Court ruling completely differently. Remain will view the ruling as confirmation that their cause is just but they shouldn't appear too triumphalistic, a difficult thing for MPs to keep under control. Leave will view this as yet another brick prized out from the democratic wall by the establishment to frustrate brexit. Most people won't understand the reasons behind the decision, but what they will understand will be used by both sides to confirm their points of view. A second referendum will require the government to propose it (whichever government that is). I can't see the Tories doing that, nor, on the basis of what happened at the Lab conference, do I see Lab proposing it. Lab appears to be just as divided as the country is. If Boris cannot persuade the EU to give him an agreement that Parliament can get behind prior to mid-Oct, I anticipate that Brexit will never happen. What I hope happens is that a) Boris writes the letter, b) the EU grants an extension, c) an election is then called, and one side obtains a majority so that they can proceed how they feel fit. What it will do for the country is another matter. I can see a) and b) happening and then those that wish to remain doing all they can to avoid c), and the process is delayed and delayed until an election is held in accordance with the legislation, with the devastating effect that that will have on cross border businesses from now until then. |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 12739443)
So Parliament passed a law requiring the government to request an extension by end of October if there is no deal by then. If the government don’t comply can Parliament request the extension direct? |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Expatrick
(Post 12739447)
Can't wait to see the headlines in the Mail & Express tomorrow.
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Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 12739443)
So Parliament passed a law requiring the government to request an extension by end of October if there is no deal by then. If the government don’t comply can Parliament request the extension direct? |
Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12739460)
There has been talk of that. I think the EU confirmed they could accept it, but there needs to be further legal opinion on whether a Parliamentarian would be authorized. So many things going on it's hard to keep up.
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Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12739460)
There has been talk of that. I think the EU confirmed they could accept it, but there needs to be further legal opinion on whether a Parliamentarian would be authorized. So many things going on it's hard to keep up.
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