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Old Aug 1st 2016 | 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
I dunno...the one I saw had a sort of top 20 and the ones at the lower end were a handfull - just four or five and then as you got higher up the list there were hundreds and then the top ones had thousands, literally.

Here it is....the slideshow from that article....just to illustrate the huge differences.
  • #1 - Pit Bull*
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 3,397
  • Deaths: 295
  • #2 - Rottweiler
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 535
  • Deaths: 85
  • #3 - German Shepherd
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 113
  • Deaths: 15
  • #6 - Boxer
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 64
  • Deaths: 7
  • #8 - Labrador Retriever
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 56
  • Deaths: 3
  • #31 - Beagle
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 4
  • Deaths: 1
  • #35 - Great Pyrenees
  • Attacks doing bodily harm: 4
  • Deaths: 1
I know I harp on about this, but I miss Geordie still.

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Old Aug 1st 2016 | 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I know I harp on about this, but I miss Geordie still.

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I wonder if rotties are as bad as some people think.

My son has a rottie-collie mix. Looks like a collie, coloured like a rottie. She is the nicest, gentlest creature on earth. She'd mother a stray slug.

He had another dog. A rottie-retreiver mix. Looked terrifying and could probably bite a tree in half. A two-year old could push him around with impunity.
 
Old Aug 1st 2016 | 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by Souvy
I wonder if rotties are as bad as some people think.

My son has a rottie-collie mix. Looks like a collie, coloured like a rottie. She is the nicest, gentlest creature on earth. She'd mother a stray slug.

He had another dog. A rottie-retreiver mix. Looked terrifying and could probably bite a tree in half. A two-year old could push him around with impunity.
I think that the gist is that any dog can cause injury and potentially death whatever the breed. Some breeds partly due to the owners are owned as weapons. Pit bulls certainly are more aggressive I reckon in particular although I'm sure that there are many gentle examples of the breed, I still think that there is a psycho living in most of them though. That is one breed I certainly would ban. Rotties less so, although their bite force is twice as strong as many dogs which is a tad alarming.
 
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I had a dog trainer friend who said many things. Amongst them were:

Never trust a dog that isn't yours, and even then it's risky sometimes
Don't think digs are great with kids and leave dog and child alone together, esp if food or toys are involved
Never forget what the bred was developed to do, terriers chase prey and kill. Bull terriers grab on and don't let go. Sheepdogs herd.
A pit bull can cause more damage because of the strength of its jaws, it will bite and hang on until its prey is dead.
 
Old Aug 1st 2016 | 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by bats
I had a dog trainer friend who said many things. Amongst them were:

Never trust a dog that isn't yours, and even then it's risky sometimes
Don't think digs are great with kids and leave dog and child alone together, esp if food or toys are involved
Never forget what the bred was developed to do, terriers chase prey and kill. Bull terriers grab on and don't let go. Sheepdogs herd.
A pit bull can cause more damage because of the strength of its jaws, it will bite and hang on until its prey is dead.
Retrievers retrieve😉... We practice food bowl safety and toy safety with our dog, I'd like to say daily like the breeder recommended but it's certainly often..
 
Old Aug 1st 2016 | 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I know I harp on about this, but I miss Geordie still.

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I hear you

I miss my Chrissie still and it's been 5 years..

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Old Oct 14th 2016 | 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
I think that the gist is that any dog can cause injury and potentially death whatever the breed. Some breeds partly due to the owners are owned as weapons.
This one appears to have been owned by a police officer.

Colchester dog attack: pet that killed baby and mauled his brother and mother 'was owned by police officer'
 
Old Oct 14th 2016 | 5:04 am
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We found out we have a pitbull living next door to us. It's a big, aggressive pitbull. I'm really not happy about it but there's nothing we can do. It does make me very nervous though.
 
Old Oct 14th 2016 | 5:09 am
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Anyone can own an aggressive dog- again- whilst staffies have a better reputation than pitbulls and there are some lovely staffies they too can flip more frequently than other breeds

Originally Posted by dominiqueincanada
We found out we have a pitbull living next door to us. It's a big, aggressive pitbull. I'm really not happy about it but there's nothing we can do. It does make me very nervous though.
I really don't blame you- do you have kids? Is their yard 100% fenced securely? Do they control it - harness, muzzle whilst out??
 
Old Oct 14th 2016 | 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
Anyone can own an aggressive dog- again- whilst staffies have a better reputation than pitbulls and there are some lovely staffies they too can flip more frequently than other breeds


I really don't blame you- do you have kids? Is their yard 100% fenced securely? Do they control it - harness, muzzle whilst out??
No kids but planning on getting a dog in the spring which worries us. The dog is just on a lead. I'd feel a lot happier if they put a muzzle on it but alas. I guess it's not considered dangerous until it attacks someone. Hopefully that's not me or my partner. It's particularly aggravating as pitbulls were banned/restricted in Vancouver but it was overturned in 2005.
 
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No kids but planning on getting a dog in the spring which worries us. The dog is just on a lead. I'd feel a lot happier if they put a muzzle on it but alas. I guess it's not considered dangerous until it attacks someone. Hopefully that's not me or my partner. It's particularly aggravating as pitbulls were banned/restricted in Vancouver but it was overturned in 2005.
Yeah- Much as I love dogs it is just one of those breeds that I just wish didn't exist- Why should you feel intimidated and worry about getting a proper dog for fear of it getting shredded?
 
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Forty years ago I was attacked-savaged really, by two pit bulls on the U.T. campus. Terrifying experience that happened late at night. 35 bites-blood everywhere. Months of medical treatment.


A couple of years ago I was camping at Castle Mountain, Banff. At a campsite across the way a surly camper arrived with two pit bulls that he allowed to run around, which not only attacked a harmless little dog, but frightened everyone. One brave soul used his bear spray on the curs-only to be threatened by their owner. Cops arrived, but did they take the dogs away? No. Just gave a warning.


I got talking to a farmer at the scene who opined that domestic animals, farm or pets, are bred for their characteristics. Holstein/Friesen for milk, Aberdeen Angus for beef. Pit bulls are not called pit bulls for nothing.


A few weeks ago a man in the UK was attacked on the street by a pit bull; it dragged him to ground, bit him to death, and then started dragging the man to its kennel. Just one of several similar reports recently.


I see more and more people here in England with pit bulls or variances. Once I thought that only men of a violent character had these animals. In our village, a seemingly refined lady has three of them-that she allows to run free in local woodland. A few weeks ago these dogs menaced me, snarling and leaping up at me. She saw nothing wrong with her own behaviour or that of her dogs-insisting that it was her right to allow the dogs to run free.
 
Old Oct 15th 2016 | 1:44 pm
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Forty years ago I was attacked-savaged really, by two pit bulls on the U.T. campus. Terrifying experience that happened late at night. 35 bites-blood everywhere. Months of medical treatment.


A couple of years ago I was camping at Castle Mountain, Banff. At a campsite across the way a surly camper arrived with two pit bulls that he allowed to run around, which not only attacked a harmless little dog, but frightened everyone. One brave soul used his bear spray on the curs-only to be threatened by their owner. Cops arrived, but did they take the dogs away? No. Just gave a warning.


I got talking to a farmer at the scene who opined that domestic animals, farm or pets, are bred for their characteristics. Holstein/Friesen for milk, Aberdeen Angus for beef. Pit bulls are not called pit bulls for nothing.


A few weeks ago a man in the UK was attacked on the street by a pit bull; it dragged him to ground, bit him to death, and then started dragging the man to its kennel. Just one of several similar reports recently.


I see more and more people here in England with pit bulls or variances. Once I thought that only men of a violent character had these animals. In our village, a seemingly refined lady has three of them-that she allows to run free in local woodland. A few weeks ago these dogs menaced me, snarling and leaping up at me. She saw nothing wrong with her own behaviour or that of her dogs-insisting that it was her right to allow the dogs to run free.
They truly are the psycho of dogs. Why do "normal" people chose to own them when there are so many beautiful other breeds to choose from who typically don't flip without warning?
Pitbulls and crosses fall under the Dangerous dogs act in the UK, how come you are coming across them ? I personally would report such aggressive dogs that you describe before a child gets killed
 
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Originally Posted by dominiqueincanada
We found out we have a pitbull living next door to us. It's a big, aggressive pitbull. I'm really not happy about it but there's nothing we can do. It does make me very nervous though.
Originally Posted by dominiqueincanada
No kids but planning on getting a dog in the spring which worries us. The dog is just on a lead. I'd feel a lot happier if they put a muzzle on it but alas. I guess it's not considered dangerous until it attacks someone. Hopefully that's not me or my partner. It's particularly aggravating as pitbulls were banned/restricted in Vancouver but it was overturned in 2005.

Another reason they should allow Canadian citizens to carry firearms. That way, if it threatens you, you should have the right to shoot it.
 
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Another reason they should allow Canadian citizens to carry firearms. That way, if it threatens you, you should have the right to shoot it.
In Ontario legislation requires Pitbulls be muzzled when in public. https://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/about/pubs/dola-pubsfty/dola-pubsfty.php#TOC_04
If your neighbors take the animal out unmuzzled you could report them and for the safety of all, you should. Don't have the mauling/death of a child/anyone on your conscience. Any responsible pit bull lover would ensure the dog is muzzled. If it does attack someone and does physical injury it will probably be put down by the courts.

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