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Old Sep 30th 2012 | 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by mandymoochops
You should start that one then
My season won't really start till November but I may take my camera out in the morning if I can get going early enough. It takes me 20 minutes to get in the field and I should be there at least 1.5 hrs before sunrise.
There's a Murphy's Law about camera batteries going flat when you see the big one!
 
Old Sep 30th 2012 | 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by caretaker
My season won't really start till November but I may take my camera out in the morning if I can get going early enough. It takes me 20 minutes to get in the field and I should be there at least 1.5 hrs before sunrise.
There's a Murphy's Law about camera batteries going flat when you see the big one!
Yes we are off up north on the 1st. 6 family members drawn for cow elk. I have my camera which is how I am starting to prefer to shoot them
 
Old Oct 1st 2012 | 2:18 am
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The CBC has an item up now, (Pork Shortage Called Hogwash) ha ha, that says although the prospect of a shortage is overblown, the farmers who are presently taking their pigs to slaughter because it costs too much to feed them will cause a temporary glut on the market and depress the price! After this the price will go up, (because there's still a drought and shortage of feed), but likely not more than %10. So, wait untill the price goes down then buy all the nitrite laden cured pork products you want and freeze it. Or not. We'll have to see how much the price drops.
 
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Originally Posted by Jetlag

Next, you're going to tell me you can only get white bread.
We've taken to making our own bread - OH thought it was the perfect excuse to buy the industrial sized Kitchen Aid!
 
Old Oct 1st 2012 | 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by bats
Yep, pigs eat anything.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...-eaten-by-pigs

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Old Oct 2nd 2012 | 12:39 am
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Animal Farm, I think Napoleon's trotter was at work here

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Old Oct 2nd 2012 | 1:27 pm
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And she thinks cows eat a fancy diet??????????
 
Old Oct 3rd 2012 | 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Nay-bob, the story is based on the drought in the American mid-west where they grow corn to feed pigs with. Either the price goes up or producers stop raising pigs, and it's already climbing.
Which is what is said in the press release and is not accurate as the mid-west is not the only place to get feed from.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Which is what is said in the press release and is not accurate as the mid-west is not the only place to get feed from.
No but getting it from other sources it starts getting more pricey to raise them.

It's the same with hay, I have friends with a couple of ranches down by the border that are selling more than normal to the states.

This story confirms that too. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...ay-in-drought/

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Old Oct 3rd 2012 | 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_
Which is what is said in the press release and is not accurate as the mid-west is not the only place to get feed from.
It doesn't matter where you buy corn from, the drought across the states has lowered feed production by 20 - 25% in the past month, and as a result the price of corn has risen 50%. Everyone's feed costs more. It's not a theory, it's just how the market works - supply and demand, and since such a large percentage of production cost of pork is in the feed, some farmers are dumping their pigs on the market, (as outlined above).
I phoned Masterfeeds and the 25 kg bag of whole corn I was paying about $10 for in the spring is $14 today and there was no drought here.

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Old Oct 3rd 2012 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by caretaker
It doesn't matter where you buy corn from, the drought across the states has lowered feed production by 20 - 25% in the past month, and as a result the price of corn has risen 50%. Everyone's feed costs more. It's not a theory, it's just how the market works - supply and demand, and since such a large percentage of production cost of pork is in the feed, some farmers are dumping their pigs on the market, (as outlined above).
I phoned Masterfeeds and the 25 kg bag of whole corn I was paying about $10 for in the spring is $14 today and there was no drought here.
I don't disagree but you're not allowing for the futures market, pig producers will already have purchased next year's corn (and sold next year's pigs). Weather today doesn't directly affect prices today.
 
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[QUOTE=dbd33;10312137]I don't disagree but you're not allowing for the futures market, pig producers will already have purchased next year's corn (and sold next year's pigs). Weather today doesn't directly affect prices today.[/
If feed's gone up then doesn't it effect prices as soon as it's sold? What about the prediction that pork will go down in price initially because of the glut then rise again and level off at about %10 higher than it is now? I wonder if the little old farmer I get my pork from has next year's feed in the bin, though that sort of outfit may not be a large part of total production.

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Old Oct 3rd 2012 | 11:04 am
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What are the Belfast Giants?
 
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What are the Belfast Giants?
Aren't they the people who used the Giant's Causeway?
 
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Aren't they the people who used the Giant's Causeway?
Perhaps, but weren't they really Leprechauns?
 


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