ultrarunner

It seems to be going a lot more these days, and something has to be done to stop it ASAP. It takes a village to raise a kid....the teachers can't do it all at school, the parents have to play an integral part in all this and make it their duty to speak to their kids more about bullying amongst other things

Another innocent soul lost

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4607133/

Jingsamichty

A tragic but predictable consequence of the modern culture of over-emoting.

We need to teach our kids to have a bit more backbone.

magnumpi

We actually need to deal with the bullies, punish and educate them. The bullied are victims of ignorant teachers and parents as much as the bullies.

Jingsamichty

Bullies are a part of life, and bullying is a part of human nature. We are NOT all the same. We need to teach kids how to properly deal with bullies, not just spout empty platitudes like "bullying must stop".

A child who grows into an adult unable to recognise and deal with a bully has been failed.

MillieF

This bloody horrifies me, this started with this poor kid from the 7th grade! From the short time our son has been at school here (he's in 6th grade) they seem to have had a dance a march or a meeting on bullying every week. However, it seems to be aimed at the victims rather than getting at the bullies. The thing is Ultra Runner is right it does take a village to raise a kid, but communities are under threat and families are increasingly defunct. A lot of parents seem to really care about their kids, but there is a minority who couldn't seem to give a stuff about what their kids are doing or getting up to. What 'does' happen to really bad bullies? Ejecting them from full time education wouldn't seem to be the answer, it's just going to make it worse later. There was a lot of bullying when I was a kid and it was basically the survival of the fittest, but we didn't have the Internet to turn someone's nastiness into a sadistic 'fun' fest.

magnumpi

In a perfect world that would work.

That will never happen. There will always be vunerable, disabled, gay, ect., kids and adults who other people will take advantage of.

So the question is why don't the bullies get it? If this had happened in a work environment were the bullied could not deal with it then action would be taken via the court system.

ultrarunner

Amen...for people to come out and tell the bullied party to "have more of a backbone", is just well.....not helping.

As mentioned above, there was no flippin internet when most of us were growing up, but nowadays with the likes of twitters, facebook et al, there are different avenues for bullies to carry out their act. Facebook especially has single-handedly ruined a lot of lives in its short existence.

Funny how countries that have strict punishments for even spraying graffiti, you don't see nonsense like this happening? Drop a chewing gum on the street in Indonesia and see what happens

cheeky_monkey

The problem is that Bullies have and always will exist esp amongst kids..because as kids grow into adults they are replaced by a new generation of children and a new generation of bullies to kids its all new and part and parcel of growing up.

magnumpi

Get them in court then!

The bullies in the OP link should be Tried for what they did and a minimum sentance should be handed out. Maybe then bullies would get it?

cheeky_monkey

i would suspect many bullies do not even think or know they are bullies so they wouldn't get it because it wouldn't apply to them.

Jingsamichty

We need to make sure that when kids are bullied, they know what to do. (Not make emo films on Youtube and commit suicide). Kids need to be told that bullies DO exist, and will always exist, and how to repond to them. It helps nobody when the Premier of BC says stupid things like "bullying must stop." You might as well say "farting must stop."

bats

This is true but...There are the weak ones who join up with the bullies, leader bully?, for fear of being the outcast and the bullied. They have to know what bullying behaviour is, and not to join in with it. Only a few are unreformable out and out bullies. The 1 in 100 psychopath maybe.

Being bullied at work? you put in a complaint, the bosses deal with it. The bully stops. The ultimate threat is that the bully loses their job, this focuses their minds on their actions and they realise they can't get away with it.

At school, or on the school bus. Well what's the penalty? Nothing that really matters to the bully. Kids need more protection.

Hawk13

Totally agree. Spouting off about the courts getting them is a waste of time. We deal with murderers, rapists, etc. this way and it still happens.

I have two teenage daughters and we all sat down and watched the Youtube vid then had a discussion. Was a very interesting discussion and both my kids are very aware of bullying (in person and on the internet) and making fun of people 'cus they are perceived as different.

One of my oldest daughters close male friends took his life two years ago and it still affects both my kids as they try to understand why. According to my kid, he wasn't bullied, always seemed to be happy at school and when they hung out as a group. Took everyone by surprise and his reason for ending it all was simply they he didn't like his life, didn't see a future and didn't want to go on. He hung himself. Nobody saw it coming.

For what it's worth, both my girls main comments were: she moved several times so why did it always happen in different surroundings? and the Facebook account thing - why not shutdown your Facebook account and start a new one even use a different name if you need or don't even bother with Facebook account. As expected, they were both pretty emotional but that you can't always blame others for how you feel and if I want things to change, you have the power to change things.

I couldn't have said it any better than Jingsamichty's comments. Educate your kids on how to deal with it 'cus you can't stop it or sweep it under the rug.

Hawk13

Remember the old lady in the States that made the headlines over a Youtube video about her getting bullied on the school bus by the "kids". The reason she was on the bus was to be a monitor and make sure no one was bullied.

There will always be bullies, whether you learn how to deal with them yourself or expect others to do it for you, is up to you. I'd rather my kids learn how to deal with it.

ultrarunner

As well as sentence, their parents should be made to pay compensation.

Here is another one.....Racism is out there right, are we telling people to just learn to deal with it then? How about people just stop the name calling? If you think someone is a fool, just say that instead of adding the colour of their skin to your comments.