... and Aus and NZ. Spot-on post, that. That's one of the ( minor ) reasons why we are headed to Aus - the massive influx of freeloaders, who bring no skills* here and, as you say, just get everything for nothing. The unemployment rates in Oldham are huge amongst sections of the population, there is a huge number of people who don't speak English ( and why should they don't have to go out to work and even the council print all literature in about 20 languages ? ), etc, etc, etc, etc.

It seems that Britain lets ANYONE in the country and houses them, feeds them, educates their children, looks after their health, pays them disability benefit and provides free cars ( Abu Hamza and Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed ) even if they are known social agitators who won't work and bring nothing to the country but unrest and the threat of terror. WTF ???

At least with Aus you have to be useful to their economy and work to pay your way. Probably the same with Canada.

I also agree with your comments about the Poles. We have several who work in my building. They learn English, they work hard, they are friendly, they pay their taxes and they don't cause any trouble or social unrest.


Rant over.



* I'm talking about those that don't bring skills, not those that do !

Free Cars????

Not this old chestnut again.

I am sure that this 'free car' thing that is going around is just that if you are considered 'disabled' by a doctor it is possible to be given either a car or money every 3 years to help assist you in getting around.

I was offered this by my doctor because I had a serious knee injury when i played football at the dripping pan.

I never took up the offer as i didn't want the 'disabled' tag as this could have limited my career although i believe it is a very good scheme if you have a serious injury and need to get to a place called work. unemployed people shouldn't get it unless they are disabled to the point they can not work.

Me too. I have to be careful what I say as I *don't* want to be seen as racist, I am absolutely nothing of the sort. My comments about Poles are because I live in an area where a lot of Polish migrated to in the 1950s and I'm friends with some second gen Polish immigrants who are just lovely, they were born here, they and their families are fully integrated, bi-lingual and - British!

Same goes for any immigrants...again, I was friends with some girls whos family originated from Bangladesh (again, parents came over in 1950s) and they were lovely too. All the family were kind and welcoming, most of them worked, the girls' late father set up his own business and the girls and their brother all had good jobs. They all considered themselves British, they all had what I'd call the British work ethic (as it used to be) and there was none of this 'I'll speak a foreign language and you have to adapt to me' with them, they were all bilingual too and brought their kids up the same way.

One of them had a lad with learning difficulties and instead of sitting and bleating about the education system or the NHS she got in there and worked with the authorities to help him (and others with his problem) - she made damn sure her son wasn't going to grow up a drop out with no education and even wrote a book on the disorder, especially targetted at her ethnic community because they weren't so familiar with learning difficulties and frowned on him as being 'badly behaved'.

These are the sort of immigrants that all counties want and need. I have absolutely no problems with anyone who wants to come to the country and make a living. That's what we all want, and that's the reason I want to go to Canada, to work hard and make a better life for myself.

People who have 17 kids and complain that their house isn't big enough any more (no? SHOCKER) and people who arrive here with their hands out and a dopey 'please look after me' look on their face are just a waste of our resources. And it's people like that who are making people like me, who work for a living but just see it all disappearing to pay for scroungers to get better houses on the social, want to move.

And don't get me started on disability either. Yes, some people ARE severely disabled and need support. But the scroungers that milk the system grate on me...having seen a friend with MS refused Disability Living Allowance because the Benefits Agency couldn't quite grasp the fact that MS comes and goes. I could have gone for incapacity benefit myself having developed RSI 3 years ago and for a while being unable to write or do much at all...but I was determined to beat it, and get back to work again. Now I'm working full time AND running a magazine website where I write most of the features myself...but the doctors told me I would be lucky to get back to work again three years ago!

I just want to go somewhere where a can-do attitude actually gets you somewhere...

<edited for rubbish typing...I blame the RSI )

What really gets me are those lazy able bodied, often young peole who park in the disabled spaces at our local Tesco because they can't be bothered to walk a few extra yards and it is not just to run in and buy a paper, i've seen tham grab a large trolley for their weekly shop.

Hmmm. I know what you mean. The friend I mentioned above, though, did get a blue badge and still gets glared at because she has the audacity to be YOUNG and disabled. She doesn't use a chair or a stick but she is sometimes in quite a lot of pain walking around...you can't see that though and I'm sure a lot of people assume she's just borrowing her gran's badge...

That's unfortunate and i have sympathy with people like her.
The worst offenders i have seen are either workmen in large white vans with ladders on the roof and company slogans on the side(clearly not disabled) or groups of youths in small sporty hatchback with music blaring out, not a blue badge in sight!

Now we're getting somewhere. Actual names of people who got free cars; which one has the Porsche? Is there a picture of him in his Porsche on the web somewhere?

I'm still very upset that *I* am not being told where my free car or free driving lessons are... whats a Canadian got to do around here to get this free stuff?

I can't see Abu Hamza really having much use for a Porsche. Must be a bugger to park when you've got no hands and only one eye.

Especially the ginger ones!
Disclaimer: Some of my best friends are ginger

I didn't want to say that for fear of being labelled Gingerist

Don't poke fun, there's an epidemic of Gingerism in the UK today... the attrocities are horrible! Thank god my ginger dad isn't around today to see this rapid escelation into racism against his 'kind'

I've 'heard' they get free suntan lotion as well!