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Jingsamichty Jul 16th 2012 10:58 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10175903)
Not if this is the view on your evening commute;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1_Gridlock.jpg

This photo should be kept and resurrected every time we have a discussion of the "Canadian outdoor lifestyle" - look! that fellow has a canoe!!!

shelley748 Jul 16th 2012 11:25 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10175807)
I call it manual, people seem to know what I mean. Besides, this is a british expats website.;)


You can equally well argue you should buy a used "standard", because the limited resale market means you have the seller over a barrel and its going to cost you less. If you drive it into the ground by the end of its life if its still going, its going to be worth $1000-1500 as a beater regardless of the transmission.

Id rather buy an old manual than an old auto, once the transmission fails in an auto its going to cost more than the vehicle is worth to fix it.

stickshift is another word for manual!

I drive an auto, why not just drift and relax!!

MikeUK Jul 16th 2012 11:55 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10176147)
Are you arguing to use the gears to slow down, therefore slowing without showing the driver of the truck behind that this is what you are doing? Does removing a foot from the gas slow a manual faster than an auto?

yes... removing your foot from the gas does slow a manual down faster...

Thank the torque converter and freewheel clutch for the lack of natural engine braking...

Atlantic Xpat Jul 16th 2012 2:35 pm

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10176132)
You need to move to BC

Or Newfoundland.;)

Almost Canadian Jul 17th 2012 1:15 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 10176227)
yes... removing your foot from the gas does slow a manual down faster...

Thank the torque converter and freewheel clutch for the lack of natural engine braking...

OK, how does that help with the problem of the idiot behind?

Former Lancastrian Jul 17th 2012 1:22 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10177347)
OK, how does that help with the problem of the idiot behind?

Well if your bumper is in bad condition and the idiot behind runs into you Im sure a new bumper being paid for by him/her is helpful unless of course they claim otherwise.
Having driven both it depends on the driving conditions. Heavy traffic stop and start AUTO as your left leg wont be doing as many clutch changes.
On the open winding roads then STANDARD if you want that rally type feeling of control.
So how do we feel about the paddle shifters found on some vehicles?

iaink Jul 17th 2012 1:49 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 10176085)
But that’s the big problem with the Auto, the only way to effectively make a minor reduction to its speed is to touch the brake, on come the lights, and the guy behind reacts… each reaction step is a little longer and a little harder and if you have enough cars in that chain that small adjustment results in stationary traffic..

I just lift off.. dont know about the others.

You just need to leave a slighly larger gap to the car infront, but of course in toronto thats asking for some cock to nip into the gap in order to get home 10 seconds earlier.

scottyxx Jul 17th 2012 1:51 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10177406)
I just lift off.. dont know about the others.

You just need to leave a slighly larger gap to the car infront, but of course in toronto thats asking for some cock to nip into the gap in order to get home 10 seconds earlier.

Yes I agree! I leave a gap and roll slowly but apparently when you translate that to Canadian it measn, yes SUV Speed in front of me, change into my lane without signalling and slam on your brakes..

iaink Jul 17th 2012 1:55 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10177355)
So how do we feel about the paddle shifters found on some vehicles?

There are good and bad, depending on how well sorted the transmission they are controlling is.

If they are just controlling a regular hydraulic/ planetary slushbox then they are worthless, they take too long to change anything. The newer dual clutch type autos are much more similar to a manual box, and in many cases are faster and more responsive than sticking your foot on the clutch.

Piff Poff Jul 17th 2012 2:51 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 
I much much prefer driving a manual/standard/stick - whatever. OH prefers a auto. Yesterday I broke the truck - well actually the rain got into the fuse box and the electrics wouldn't turn off with the rest of the car so I switched it with OH, he has been driving a manual mustang GT that the previous owners had replaced the clutch with a aftermarket racing clutch - what a pig to drive in traffic, the clutch is ridiculously heavy. But my god so much fun to drive:thumbsup:

R I C H Jul 17th 2012 4:29 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10177418)
There are good and bad, depending on how well sorted the transmission they are controlling is.

If they are just controlling a regular hydraulic/ planetary slushbox then they are worthless, they take too long to change anything. The newer dual clutch type autos are much more similar to a manual box, and in many cases are faster and more responsive than sticking your foot on the clutch.

I agree. My experience of owning vehicles with those transmissions are:

F150 - great for added control when towing, adds nothing to the driving experience otherwise.
Mercedes ML - slow, dimwitted and outside of towing or winter conditions I left the gearbox in 'D'
Golf GTI - dual clutch 'box. Just as Iain says - faster, more economical and as close to as much control as a standard as to make no difference.

Cyan Jul 17th 2012 8:56 am

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I drive a manual, and I'm treated like some Paris to Dakar rally freak by office colleagues....

HSJones Jul 18th 2012 2:58 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 10170881)

Cruise control for long highway trips is something I'd definitely recommend, too.

Yes definitely - it's a must!!

dbd33 Jul 18th 2012 4:09 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by HSJones (Post 10179541)
Yes definitely - it's a must!!

The whippet ate my cruise control knob. I can't say I really miss it.

wardy_1990 Jul 18th 2012 7:40 am

Re: Manual or Automatic in Canada?
 
is it just cars that are manual or are the pick ups as well?


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