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ExKiwilass May 24th 2015 3:46 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
thanks for sharing your boredom, conniewalker!

magnumpi May 24th 2015 4:14 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
Why is it wrong for some one to have an opposing opinion? If a poster hates gays, Muslims,sausage dogs, hunting, slagging off reporters at football stadiums ect

If they are honest enough to give an opinion on their view then should we not just take it that that is "their" view and that not all views are black white, right or wrong, like being gay? Is it right or is it wrong or is it just what it is, being gay ?

ExKiwilass May 24th 2015 4:22 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
if you have an opposing opinion, then you need to be prepared to defend that opinion.

magnumpi May 24th 2015 4:38 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
Why ? It's an opinion, suck it up and move on. Do people who agree with whatever the subject is need to defend why they agree ?

Pica May 24th 2015 4:41 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11655249)
Why ? It's an opinion, suck it up and move on. Do people who agree with whatever the subject is need to defend why they agree ?

:goodpost:

scrubbedexpat091 May 24th 2015 4:42 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
Seems silly to tell people they can't marry because of the gender they happen to like, just as silly as when people of one color were told they could not marry one of another color in some countries at one point.

We are all people and if the government want's to be in the marriage business they need to let any adult marry any other adult those adults wish to marry with few exceptions (such as siblings marrying).

Shard May 24th 2015 4:43 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11655249)
Why ? It's an opinion, suck it up and move on. Do people who agree with whatever the subject is need to defend why they agree ?

Opinions don't always need to be defended, but it's much more interesting if they are. Some people base their opinions on old or incorrect information, and it's only through debate that truth emerges and things improve. For example, climate change, twenty years ago many were sayings it's scientific hogwash, not so anymore.

Pica May 24th 2015 4:44 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 11655204)
thanks for sharing your boredom, conniewalker!

No problem :thumbsup:. anytime you're similarly bored enough to make pointless comments I shall make sure I give you food for thought.

Shard May 24th 2015 4:50 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11655253)
Seems silly to tell people they can't marry because of the gender they happen to like, just as silly as when people of one color were told they could not marry one of another color in some countries at one point.

We are all people and if the government want's to be in the marriage business they need to let any adult marry any other adult those adults wish to marry with few exceptions (such as siblings marrying).

Yes but there is an argument for not having marriage at all. Especially when so many divorce. Church or traditional weddings are ok, symbolic, I suppose, that includes aquariums dude, but do we really need the state to sanction a coupling? Is it just a shortcut for child, asset and tax matters?

Where's AC these days, he would have an opinion on this...

magnumpi May 24th 2015 5:02 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11655254)
Opinions don't always need to be defended, but it's much more interesting if they are. Some people base their opinions on old or incorrect information, and it's only through debate that truth emerges and things improve. For example, climate change, twenty years ago many were sayings it's scientific hogwash, not so anymore.

Sorry I disagree, I think people base their opinions on just that, it's their opinion, then they get bullied on the webternet and its then that they look for validation

Shard May 24th 2015 5:08 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11655266)
Sorry I disagree, I think people base their opinions on just that, it's their opinion, then they get bullied on the webternet and its then that they look for validation

Where does their opinion come from ? Is it random, are they pre-programmed in some way? Where does it come from??

magnumpi May 24th 2015 5:12 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
I would say it's what they think it is from what they see and feel in the real world. Like chatting in a pub

1. Two gays there look

2. I don't like gays

1. Why? What's with u

2. I just don't, it's not natural

1. Ok get the beers in u wamker

Ha ha ok

No going off to reference the Internet it's an honest opinion yeh

Shard May 24th 2015 5:21 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
That's a simplistic view. Person 2 has not made any effort to understand why he dislikes something. If that something is (say) a make of vehicle, who cares, if it's fellow human beings, then the person should make more effort rather than remaining ignorant.

scrubbedexpat091 May 24th 2015 5:31 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11655259)
Yes but there is an argument for not having marriage at all. Especially when so many divorce. Church or traditional weddings are ok, symbolic, I suppose, that includes aquariums dude, but do we really need the state to sanction a coupling? Is it just a shortcut for child, asset and tax matters?

Where's AC these days, he would have an opinion on this...

I don't personally see the need for government sanctioned marriage, but seems to be what the government or society wants.

Can't say I see any financial or tax benefits from it...

Oink May 24th 2015 5:32 am

Re: Ireland votes Yes
 
Marriage to anybody just shouldn't be an issue. Everybody has the basic human right to be as miserable as anybody else.


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