Ireland votes Yes
 

Well done Ireland for breaking the shackles of religious conservatism and becoming the first country in the world to approve gay marriage. 62% in favour. Slainte.

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No, not the first country, but the first to approve it by referendum. Gay marriage is already legal in many countries, the UK being one, but the others have been by acts of the government and not the people.

Still well done to Ireland, and a kick in the teeth for the Catholic church and it's repressions.

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Yes by referendum/popular vote. My browser crashed and I had to rewrite my post, forgetting that bit! Anyway, the fact that it is popular vote speaks volumes. A real good kick in teeth.

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It made me want to PUKE.

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Why can't homosexuals just get on with their lives and stop boring the rest of us with their preciousness-I mean apart from them who really gives a damn. Marriage is such an archaic concept anyway.

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You two are a hoot!

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well, at least that outs one homophobe. Do you realise that if uyou have a circle of more than 10 friends, there is a strong likelihood that at least one is homosexual. so just suck it up... possibly not the best phrase there..:rofl::rofl:

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Might just be a 'sanctity of marriage' thing rather than homophobia. Whichever it is, times have moved on. I suppose for some older citizens 50+ (yourself excluded of course) it is harder to adjust to the changed social mores.

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This will no doubt upset the Duggards

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I'm not sure that's a a excuse... I genuinely thought those two posts didn't really mean it cause people surely don't blatantly hold those views anymore. Horrible, vile posts.

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If you're referring to MY post (and excuse me if you're not) then I certainly did mean what I posted. It wasn't a homophobic post at all and neither was I expressing any "vile" opinions. I know some very nice people who are gay but they don't "climb on rooftops" to point out to the rest of the world that they consider themselves hard done by. I don't actually know any homophobics but the constant press coverage of a minority group becomes so wearisome to most readers that they eventually will become a target for criticism.

Bored now!

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Well I guess I am not as wordly wise or cynical as you appear to be, or may be I'm not part of a minority group that faces prejudiced behaviour on a daily basis so I'm not weary of constant press coverage which I seem to have missed nor wish to criticise any minority group.

My views on whether marriage is outdated are entirely irrelevant to anyone else's wish to be married...and so if that's what they wish to do then gay or straight then they should be able to do so.

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"Well I guess I am not as cynical as you appear to be......"
Probably not :)

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hey conniewalker, if you're so bored by this topic why are you posting on this thread?

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ps GO IRELAND

i imagine there are some conservative irish-american catholics who aren't too happy with the motherland right now, bwa hahahaha

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What utter nonsense. Try 0.15, i.e if you have a hundred friends, 1.5 may be homo.

UK gay, lesbian and bisexual population revealed - BBC News

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I'm pretty sure I've heard about 1:20 (5%) being the ratio. That link you posted is from 2010, but I don't have anything more current. 2% or below seems awfully low.

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Not really. I'd say it's about right. I don't think things have changed much since 2010, really.
I can only base things on my own experience... I'm knocking on in years and have met very few "gays". And in the profession I'm in, I'm more likely to meet them than most!
I'm pretty sure the LGBT community ramp up the figures for their own purposes.

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awwww, a good fisting will sort you out :cool:

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It could be worse I guess. Next step may be making it compulsory. :sarcasm:

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I would at a guess from your terminology say you would 't encourage anyone to out themselves to you...

As an aside, I was talking to a friend about my son's swim team chief coach who is amazing, and I hadn't realised that she and the other coach were an item and neither do I care, but the friend was stating they were desperate to foster but were being discriminated quite badly against by the local foster agency. Pretty sad.

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Opposite from my experience. Look at the size of Pride marches or gay villages in big cities. I don't think figures are exaggerated.

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I would at a guess from your terminology say you would 't encourage anyone to out themselves to you...

I was talking to a friend about my son's swim team chief coach who is amazing, and I hadn't realised that she and the other coach were an item and neither do I care, but the friend was stating they were desperate to foster but were being discriminated quite badly against by the local foster agency. Pretty sad.




Er... what's that got to do with my post?

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Well, you can trust the BBC... they say 1.5%. So it must be true.;)

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Exactly right. Many straight acting gays will not reveal their sexuality if they sense the slightest chance of judgement. That's why the Ireland public vote is so good for genuine equality. Closeted gays will feel freer to express themselves.

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I've edited it...it was just a chain of thought since I was talking about discrimination of gay couples on Friday night. The first comment of course was aimed at you with your "gays" and "homos"...

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Eh... you called them "gays" yourself.... have you been at the whisky??

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We actually live in a retirement apartment block in the gay area of Bournemouth, and just walking around you wouldn't think that a lot of the people you see on the street are gay, we do get the 'Pride' march in this area, but the majority of those taking part are not the flamboyant demonstrative type.

I was, a few years ago, the PRO of British Naturism, and we had to tell the clubs in our organisation that they could not discriminate against single males and also gay coples. This did propmt a lot of discussion in the clubs who had to change the wording of their rules so as not to be discriminatory, and I know of one club where some of the committee members siad, well we are OK, and we don't have any of that sort of people here, and were totally flabbergasted to be told there were at least 3 gay couples as members, these were female couples, and the committee members just though they were two females sharing a caravan, females couyld get away with that, two males would not.

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Wikipedia shows the percentage of people identifying as gay in the general population varies widely between nations and between survey years. Including the other categories in the lbgt community and allowing a couple of points for those respondents staying in the closet 1 in 10 who aren't straight by definition seems possible. Besides recognition (a big deal for some but not desired by all) and the issue of adoption by same sex couples I could see as a major benefit the legality of marriage for survivor's pensions and family insurance, tax allowances, etc.

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@ slanderer of the innocents......Because I can

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thanks for sharing your boredom, conniewalker!

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Why is it wrong for some one to have an opposing opinion? If a poster hates gays, Muslims,sausage dogs, hunting, slagging off reporters at football stadiums ect

If they are honest enough to give an opinion on their view then should we not just take it that that is "their" view and that not all views are black white, right or wrong, like being gay? Is it right or is it wrong or is it just what it is, being gay ?

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if you have an opposing opinion, then you need to be prepared to defend that opinion.

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Why ? It's an opinion, suck it up and move on. Do people who agree with whatever the subject is need to defend why they agree ?

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:goodpost:

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Seems silly to tell people they can't marry because of the gender they happen to like, just as silly as when people of one color were told they could not marry one of another color in some countries at one point.

We are all people and if the government want's to be in the marriage business they need to let any adult marry any other adult those adults wish to marry with few exceptions (such as siblings marrying).

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Opinions don't always need to be defended, but it's much more interesting if they are. Some people base their opinions on old or incorrect information, and it's only through debate that truth emerges and things improve. For example, climate change, twenty years ago many were sayings it's scientific hogwash, not so anymore.

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No problem :thumbsup:. anytime you're similarly bored enough to make pointless comments I shall make sure I give you food for thought.

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Yes but there is an argument for not having marriage at all. Especially when so many divorce. Church or traditional weddings are ok, symbolic, I suppose, that includes aquariums dude, but do we really need the state to sanction a coupling? Is it just a shortcut for child, asset and tax matters?

Where's AC these days, he would have an opinion on this...

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Sorry I disagree, I think people base their opinions on just that, it's their opinion, then they get bullied on the webternet and its then that they look for validation