Guns
#424
It's not quite the same is it. There is enormous social and economic utility in driving. Guns are just a hobby. At best, just a hobby.
#425










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I think most people would when pressed to actually think about it for more than 5s. Although I would think that most people would also support attempts to reduce the number of road deaths. Unless it's speed cameras, they can piss off.
#426
That's a relief. Shows you how much more advanced the UK is.
I suspect old age kills more police officers so I think it is you who are wrong.
Resorting to naff arguments because gun ownership is tragic and pointless.
I suspect old age kills more police officers so I think it is you who are wrong.
Resorting to naff arguments because gun ownership is tragic and pointless.
#428
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Yeah.
When was the last time someone killed 3 policemen and injured two with a knife?
The loony arguments are back.
I still can't believe IainK tried to bring cars in again.
The reality is most shootings are carried out by individuals who obtained their fire arms through legal means and were not criminals until that point.
If the law had been more restrictive or firearms weren't so readily available they'd have been reduced dramatically.
This forum's Gun lobbyists are yet to tell us why gun ownership is a good or important thing for society.
The criminal argument is rubbish.
The smoking and car argument beaten down to idiocy half a dozen times now.
When was the last time someone killed 3 policemen and injured two with a knife?
The loony arguments are back.
I still can't believe IainK tried to bring cars in again.
The reality is most shootings are carried out by individuals who obtained their fire arms through legal means and were not criminals until that point.
If the law had been more restrictive or firearms weren't so readily available they'd have been reduced dramatically.
This forum's Gun lobbyists are yet to tell us why gun ownership is a good or important thing for society.
The criminal argument is rubbish.
The smoking and car argument beaten down to idiocy half a dozen times now.

Interesting read of gun crime stats on Wikipedia - no idea how accurate though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
More interesting reading on knife crimes in the UK
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...w-8681511.html
Last edited by Eddmac; Jun 6th 2014 at 8:08 am.
#429
As would most people would support attempts to reduce the number of deaths caused by weapons, both in their communities and during war.
#430
That more are shot than stabbed? More advanced when compared to where?
I never proposed numbers. In what way was I wrong?
I appreciate that, by your own admission, you are likely pissed, so I will cease "debating" with you. Accepting that you opinion is as valid as mine.
I appreciate that, by your own admission, you are likely pissed, so I will cease "debating" with you. Accepting that you opinion is as valid as mine.
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It's still a matter of P&L. Just that in car ownerships case, the benefits are so large when compared to the cost in life that it's meaningless to compare it to gun ownership.
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My own personal view is that owning a gun means you're probably a bit of wanker. But, I don't care enough to be bothered about it. It's their country - they can shoot each other as much as they like as long as they don't involve me in their gun-toting nonsense.
#433
I estimate that more than 5 people were killed and/or injured as a result of the use of vehicles, in the past hour, alone throughout Canada, notwithstanding its utility.
#434
This is not something I've noticed whenever legislation on gun ownership is discussed
My own personal view is that owning a gun means you're probably a bit of wanker. But, I don't care enough to be bothered about it. It's their country - they can shoot each other as much as they like as long as they don't involve me in their gun-toting nonsense.

My own personal view is that owning a gun means you're probably a bit of wanker. But, I don't care enough to be bothered about it. It's their country - they can shoot each other as much as they like as long as they don't involve me in their gun-toting nonsense.



