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Aren't Christian's of all the major churches technically catholics? As opposed to the appropriation of term by the Church of Rome?

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Good old American tolerance at work. Arseholes.

http://gawker.com/5628631/mosque-pro...iles-at-park51

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Nearly 6 years.

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Definitely not. I'm Christian but not a Catholic. There is no such thing as technically Catholic unless you are referring to Catholics who practice their religion only on Sundays and major Christian holidays.

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The poster I quoted suggested that Catholics were not Christian when he rolled them in with "Jews, Buddhists and so on".

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The Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and some Methodists believe that their churches are catholic in the sense that they are in continuity with the original universal church founded by the Apostles. The Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox churches all believe that their church is the only original and universal church. In "Catholic Christendom" (including the Anglican Communion), bishops are considered the highest order of ministers within the Christian religion, as shepherds of unity in communion with the whole church and one another.[8] Catholicity is considered one of Four Marks of the Church, the others being unity, sanctity, and apostolicity.[9] according to the Nicene Creed of 381: "I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church."

Source:- Wikipedia

Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
 

Some fundamentalist Christians believe Catholicism and Mormonism are cults.... based upon veneration of figures like Mary and Joseph Smith on a near-equal level with Jesus.

I was raised fundie and was taught which faiths were "very questionable." :o

Now the guy-who-was-going-to-burn-the-Quran is going to have a go at getting the mosque moved. Everyone wants a piece of this action.

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Christians are, basically, in violation of the first two commandments which makes them idol worshipers.


1. You shall have no other gods before me. (Jesus is venerated as a virtual God and his name is spoken more in church than Gods)

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. (Well, there goes Jesus on the cross above so many alters. Not to mention the statues of Mary, Jesus, the Stations of The Cross, all the Saints of the Catholic Church, the Nativity Scene, religious medals etc.)

I don't think Baptists and some other branches of Christianity use depictions of Jesus etc. They assume this absolves them, but they all have that crucifix and basically worship it. Same same. So they're all going to hell anyway.:lol:

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Ehm - there's a difference between veneration and acknowledgment. I honestly do not think that the more fundamental faiths (as you've pointed out, Baptists) worship objects of any kind. Also - the 10 commandments are in the Old Testament, and while Jesus did not null and void them, he mentioned that only two commandments are imperative (The Great Commandment). If I have one criticism to make of modern Christians, it is they ignore the second part of the Great Commandment, which is called the moral imperative ("love thy neighbour) and yet some self-styled right-wing Christians are the first to cut welfare programs. I'm sure the counterargument would be that the *government* should not force people to do this, but that's also puzzling given that they certainly want the government to *prohibit* things like drinking, drugs, prostitution, gay marriage, and so on. And they want to crow that America was founded on "Judeo-Christian principles" (by the way, Jews hate that phrase) so if that's the case, then what's the problem with the government implementing some of those principles?

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Of course Jesus (or his creators) would tell folks not to worry about those first two commandments. If they did, they wouldn't follow Jesus.;) And you are correct. Most Christians, or too many of them, forget what should be the true meaning of the faith.

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Especially the part about a camel, a needle, a rich man and heaven. ;)

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Yes, that one gets overlooked a lot. Easier for a camel to pass through th eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven.

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Of course, the "eye of a needle" did mean something different then, so not quite so lidicrous, and there is always some argument over literal interpretation vs metaphore etc, and none of this has anything to do with the (not a) mosque (two blocks and a bit from being) at ground zero anyway.


Im sure the koran burning nutter will be sucessful in stopping them building a mosque at ground zero, as it never was a mosque, and never was going to be at ground zero in the first place:rolleyes:

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Anyone else picked up on the irony regarding what this tit calls his church?

Dove World Outreach Center.

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Better?

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Marginally better, now that you have converted it to proper English. The name, however, remains wank.

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I like your impassioned denial. But you're wrong. You might not be Roman catholic but if you're a Christian of a major church then you're a catholic.

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If you're praying to be rescued from a coal shaft in Chile, you're a miner Catholic! :p

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Actually I read somewhere that what it is intended to be built is a big interfaith center representing the 3 main religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam...

I do not know if this is true!

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Exactly....

I saw in the Daily Show of John Stewart the map and it reflects what you said...The site is far from Ground Zero..