"Ground Zero" Mosque. Should they or shouldn't they?
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I agree, the workers in the Towers were unfortunate. However, many more people die from other unfortunate incidents such as car accidents, smoking-related deaths and other acts. Every one of these deaths is regrettable but no less innocent.
It was a shocking incident, but not all that differnt from 1000's of people dying as the result of an earthquake or tsunami. An incident that would have been avoided if the US intelligence agencies acted on information they admit they had prior to it. The terrorists are not the only ones at fault.
It was a shocking incident, but not all that differnt from 1000's of people dying as the result of an earthquake or tsunami. An incident that would have been avoided if the US intelligence agencies acted on information they admit they had prior to it. The terrorists are not the only ones at fault.
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Obama thinks this is a good idea 
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...acked-by-Obama
Wonder if we would be as enthusiastic about building a little one inside Kings Cross Station, or have a mobile London Bus tribute mosque.
At the end of the day it comes down to "respect" for the family's of the Innocent murdered victims.
What next? Hitler tribute statue to be erected at Auschwitz.
No law against that either.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...acked-by-Obama
Wonder if we would be as enthusiastic about building a little one inside Kings Cross Station, or have a mobile London Bus tribute mosque.

At the end of the day it comes down to "respect" for the family's of the Innocent murdered victims.
What next? Hitler tribute statue to be erected at Auschwitz.
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The site in question is, apparently, already being used as a temporary mosque. I don't think that it should be banned, that opens the floodgates, where does it end?
I do, however, think that those seeking to build the mosque in that particular space have reached new heights of insensitivity. How would it be received if someone built a mega church with a McDonalds inside over the ruins of some controversially demolished building in Kabul?
Perhaps if there was more acceptance of others and a general "keep your nose out of others' business" then we may not be in this position.
I do, however, think that those seeking to build the mosque in that particular space have reached new heights of insensitivity. How would it be received if someone built a mega church with a McDonalds inside over the ruins of some controversially demolished building in Kabul?
Perhaps if there was more acceptance of others and a general "keep your nose out of others' business" then we may not be in this position.
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I know that Muslims in general are peace loving people and I do not blame the majority for the minority of extreme terrorists.
I still do not agree with them building a Mosque near the Ground Zero site, it is just wrong!
It would be like building a Hitler memorial close to Auschwitz!!!
It's just thoughtless, cruel and pure insanity!
My opinion only, of course.
I still do not agree with them building a Mosque near the Ground Zero site, it is just wrong!
It would be like building a Hitler memorial close to Auschwitz!!!
It's just thoughtless, cruel and pure insanity!
My opinion only, of course.
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Obama thinks this is a good idea 
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...acked-by-Obama
Wonder if we would be as enthusiastic about building a little one inside Kings Cross Station, or have a mobile London Bus tribute mosque.
At the end of the day it comes down to "respect" for the family's of the Innocent murdered victims.
What next? Hitler tribute statue to be erected at Auschwitz.
No law against that either.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...acked-by-Obama
Wonder if we would be as enthusiastic about building a little one inside Kings Cross Station, or have a mobile London Bus tribute mosque.

At the end of the day it comes down to "respect" for the family's of the Innocent murdered victims.
What next? Hitler tribute statue to be erected at Auschwitz.
#38
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. 'Nuff said.
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Yes would be nice to see a mosque built on ground zero one of those big ones like the ones in the middle east one that will call all to pray 4 times daily yes this would make america proud and show it to be more tolerent than the rest perhaps they could include a school for the faithful next door after all if we are going to be global may as well go the whole hog now because oneday it will happen like a black president and oneday a muslim president maybe a woman president although the last contenders ie H.Clinton & that alaskan woman well
#40
I know that Muslims in general are peace loving people and I do not blame the majority for the minority of extreme terrorists.
I still do not agree with them building a Mosque near the Ground Zero site, it is just wrong!
It would be like building a Hitler memorial close to Auschwitz!!!
It's just thoughtless, cruel and pure insanity!
My opinion only, of course.
I still do not agree with them building a Mosque near the Ground Zero site, it is just wrong!
It would be like building a Hitler memorial close to Auschwitz!!!
It's just thoughtless, cruel and pure insanity!
My opinion only, of course.
If the terrorists manage to create a backlash against all Muslims, then they have indeed succeeded.
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Like many people, you appear to conflate "terrorist" with "Muslim" - building a temple to terrorism near ground zero would be the equivalent of building a Hitler (or fascism in general) memorial close to Auschwitz, building a Mosque is just building a Mosque - the vast majority of the 1.8 billion Muslims are not terrorists, just as the vast majority of the Irish weren't IRA.
If the terrorists manage to create a backlash against all Muslims, then they have indeed succeeded.
If the terrorists manage to create a backlash against all Muslims, then they have indeed succeeded.
It's the only way to be sure.
#43
You sound very blasé about the thousands of innocent who lost their lives on that day that were on the plane and working in the towers at the time of the attack. Women, Children and men who had nothing to do with the terrorist act but were there through misfortune.
#44
If it was all as meets the eye then surely freedom of religion is a central tennet of the american consititution, a founding principal of the country, so yes, they should be allowed to build a mosque wherever they wish. Too many people look at a muslim and see a terrorist.
But there are a few unanswered questions:
It appears much of the funding for this is from "overseas". If the local muslim population wished to build a mosque, then let them fund it. Saudi funding smacks of political interfence to me
Given that the plot was purchased 3 years ago, why has there been no attempt from those leading this project to reach out to the local population, whose concerns are entirely foreseeable under the circumstances?
One has to question the motives of building another mosque where there appears to be no need based on the fact that there are many half empty mosques around.
I do think the whole situation would be helped immensely if the vast majority of peacefull god fearing moderate muslims would make themselves far more vocal in opposing the extremist elements who are stealing and corrupting their religion into something is never was. The problem I think is that the huge majority of moderate muslims dont seem to be getting the message across that groups like Al Quida and the Talliban are not representative at all of what Islam is really all about, they really need to make it clear how much they oppose those views.
But there are a few unanswered questions:
It appears much of the funding for this is from "overseas". If the local muslim population wished to build a mosque, then let them fund it. Saudi funding smacks of political interfence to me
Given that the plot was purchased 3 years ago, why has there been no attempt from those leading this project to reach out to the local population, whose concerns are entirely foreseeable under the circumstances?
One has to question the motives of building another mosque where there appears to be no need based on the fact that there are many half empty mosques around.
I do think the whole situation would be helped immensely if the vast majority of peacefull god fearing moderate muslims would make themselves far more vocal in opposing the extremist elements who are stealing and corrupting their religion into something is never was. The problem I think is that the huge majority of moderate muslims dont seem to be getting the message across that groups like Al Quida and the Talliban are not representative at all of what Islam is really all about, they really need to make it clear how much they oppose those views.
Last edited by iaink; Aug 16th 2010 at 2:38 am.
#45
However, i think a Christian Church should be built on these sites of mass death to show the tolerance of all religions and nationalities, and as a way of an apology






