Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Jun 29th 2016 | 4:22 am
#211
Realist
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From: UK
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Not so. It was confirmed today they triggering Article 50 is solely up to the UK, despite what Junkers and other impatient Eurocrats think. Kicking the decision into the long grass until more is known about what Brexit entails makes good sense, and then letting the politicians decide or a second referendum with a qualified majority might be the way forward.
Jun 29th 2016 | 4:34 am
#212
Assimilated Pauper
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From: Ontario
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
It what way? If someone, say the head of a firm looking to invest, was going to be scared off by a Brexit, would they be less scared off by a dithery Brexit? The only beneficiaries I can see of a bumbled Brexit would be potential immigrants to the UK who could hurry up and move while the chance is still there.
Jun 29th 2016 | 4:50 am
#213
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From: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Here's a proposal.
There's already a North-South divide so why not just make it official?
Remainers live in the South (because London is 'remain' and Europe is closer) and the Leavers all live in the North. Give the North it's independence as it appears that's what the Leavers want.
Hold a referendum to decide.
There's already a North-South divide so why not just make it official?
Remainers live in the South (because London is 'remain' and Europe is closer) and the Leavers all live in the North. Give the North it's independence as it appears that's what the Leavers want.
Hold a referendum to decide.
Jun 29th 2016 | 4:50 am
#214
Listen to the Music
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From: Fraser Valley BC
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Whilst the fall is not the best news of the week for me, it will boost the uk economy in the short term. All of those Nissan cars exported to europe will boost profits, increase in petrol and oil revenues also boost treasury income. etc etc.
Ahh I hear you say, what about all of those threats to move company headquarters abroad, well let them. They will always need a core base in the UK to service the UK and since they pull out all the stops to pay as little tax as possible, let them scrounge from someone else.
Keeping the EU hanging on for as long as practicable makes common sense to me, encourages others to do the same and most importantly puts the willies up them.
Jun 29th 2016 | 5:12 am
#215
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
IMO Europe is being kept hanging on because nobody, absolutely nobody, has a clue how to proceed.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not.
Jun 29th 2016 | 5:19 am
#216
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
For which situations? The collapse of the currency, the pending departure of branch-plant industry, the rise in street level racism, the disarray in both major parties, can hardly be attributed to the writings of mahvellous Julie Burchill.
I suppose the papers are somewhat culpable in not more vigorously exposing the Leave campaign's lies over finance and immigration and for allowing Boris to be portrayed as a lovable buffoon rather than a dangerous egomaniac but, in the end, it's the people who voted who made this stupid decision. It's not the BBC that shot the working public in the foot.
Of course the country will muddle on, few people will die over the decision, but it's no good pretending the British public was misled. The British public is simply stupid.
I suppose the papers are somewhat culpable in not more vigorously exposing the Leave campaign's lies over finance and immigration and for allowing Boris to be portrayed as a lovable buffoon rather than a dangerous egomaniac but, in the end, it's the people who voted who made this stupid decision. It's not the BBC that shot the working public in the foot.
Of course the country will muddle on, few people will die over the decision, but it's no good pretending the British public was misled. The British public is simply stupid.
Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media.
Jun 29th 2016 | 5:20 am
#217
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From: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Jun 29th 2016 | 5:44 am
#218
Born again atheist
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Europe (to be specified).
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
IMO Europe is being kept hanging on because nobody, absolutely nobody, has a clue how to proceed.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not.
It was, at heart, a schoolboy wresting match between ex-Etonian, ex-Bullingdon Club twats.
Bugger the consequences for the rest of us.
Jun 29th 2016 | 5:48 am
#219
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From: Calgary
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
I agree. I have just noted that Renault is to increase its sales prices as a result of the fall in sterling.
Whilst the fall is not the best news of the week for me, it will boost the uk economy in the short term. All of those Nissan cars exported to europe will boost profits, increase in petrol and oil revenues also boost treasury income. etc etc.
Ahh I hear you say, what about all of those threats to move company headquarters abroad, well let them. They will always need a core base in the UK to service the UK and since they pull out all the stops to pay as little tax as possible, let them scrounge from someone else.
Keeping the EU hanging on for as long as practicable makes common sense to me, encourages others to do the same and most importantly puts the willies up them.
Whilst the fall is not the best news of the week for me, it will boost the uk economy in the short term. All of those Nissan cars exported to europe will boost profits, increase in petrol and oil revenues also boost treasury income. etc etc.
Ahh I hear you say, what about all of those threats to move company headquarters abroad, well let them. They will always need a core base in the UK to service the UK and since they pull out all the stops to pay as little tax as possible, let them scrounge from someone else.
Keeping the EU hanging on for as long as practicable makes common sense to me, encourages others to do the same and most importantly puts the willies up them.
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Jun 29th 2016 | 6:46 am
#220
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Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 19,878
From: SW Ontario
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Kind of ironic, really, the "take back control" message of the Leavers:
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Jun 29th 2016 | 6:48 am
#222
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From: SW Ontario
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media.
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Jun 29th 2016 | 7:04 am
#223
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media.
Jun 29th 2016 | 7:04 am
#224
Proudly Scarberian
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,196
From: Scarberia
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
And you can stick Essex and Surrey up yer jacket.
They did drive nicely once, rented a megane wagon which was great. Maybe because it remained the property of Avis but...
Anything's better than GM.
Jun 29th 2016 | 8:08 am
#225
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Posts: 24,667
From: UK
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
It what way? If someone, say the head of a firm looking to invest, was going to be scared off by a Brexit, would they be less scared off by a dithery Brexit? The only beneficiaries I can see of a bumbled Brexit would be potential immigrants to the UK who could hurry up and move while the chance is still there.
