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Old Jan 28th 2017, 5:00 pm
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Bless em all, bless them all,the long & the short & the tall....
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
90- day ban on entry for anyone from Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Exceptions for diplomatic visas.

60 days for other countries to provide necessary info Trump wants, if not provided citizens from those countries will be barred from travel to the US.

Various departments ordered to review what info the US Gov't needs to vet visitors and provide a list of countries that don't provide said info.

State Dept ordered to stop issuing visas to Syrian nationals and halt the processing of Syrian refugees. Remains in effect until Trump has determined enough security changes have been made.

4 month suspension of broader refugee program.

Cuts number of total refugees by half to 50,000 for this budget year, was originally set at 110,000 by Obama.

Exceptions made to refugees claiming persecution due to their religion if their religion is a minority religion, such as Christians in a Muslim country.

Prioritizing Christians could be unconstitutional.


Trump's sweeping executive order bars all Syrian refugees from entering U.S. - World - CBC News
And yet, no ban on Saudi ?!? That makes a warped policy beyond farcical.
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by magnumpi View Post
It's so strange seeing an elected political leader actually doing ! what he said he would do when he was running for office and scrapping for votes. Scary even.
Absolutely.
Nobody actually expects a politician to do any of the things he'd promised to do out of office. It comes as a bit of a shock when you have to dig deep and remember what he has promised in order to prepare yourself for the next bombshell...
The only effective opposition he has are the republicans themselves and they must be feel as though they've a tiger by the tail.
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 6:01 pm
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what is so funny in the news today is Iran retaliation banning US citizens traveling to Iran

So, Iranian origin turned US citizens traveling to Iran to visit family wont be let in *unless they give up US citizenship*.... yer think?

Or those on the banned country list wanting to visit family in the US...

You sort of have to admire Trump for trying to 'keep to some of his election promise' for now

And what about all those whinging refugees, where will they end up.... Canada of course
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 6:10 pm
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I have been known to extremely vet the odd Liverpool supporter entering Canada
I think they could do with a break right now.
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 6:31 pm
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I saw that too N2O

Iran condemned the order as an “open affront against the Muslim world and the Iranian nation” and vowed to retaliate.

Maybe I should put my family Bagdad vacation on hold till this all blows over :@)
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by magnumpi View Post
I saw that too N2O

Iran condemned the order as an “open affront against the Muslim world and the Iranian nation” and vowed to retaliate.

Maybe I should put my family Bagdad vacation on hold till this all blows over :@)
or until it 'blows up'

Get ready for the oil exports from the middle east to slow down (what another oil price increase) then with Russia coming to the rescue to supply oil to the US

Russia becomes a great trading partner.... mark my words
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 6:39 pm
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or until it 'blows up'

Get ready for the oil exports from the middle east to slow down (what another oil price increase) then with Russia coming to the rescue to supply oil to the US

Russia becomes a great trading partner.... mark my words
A Sure thing IMO
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Russia becomes a great trading partner.... mark my words
Hmmm... Intended or unintended consequences? I wonder.
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Originally Posted by dave_j View Post
Hmmm... Intended or unintended consequences? I wonder.
Russia has enough oil to supply the US should the middle east play silly buggers


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Old Jan 28th 2017, 7:22 pm
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can all those US green card holders from the 7 countries on Trump's ban list currently stuck wherever come to Canada & stay up to 6 months while this thing settles down?

Imagine as one of those unfortunate people not being allowed back into the states where their life, work & possibly family is?

What would you do?
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Old Jan 28th 2017, 7:41 pm
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I would expect that if you had legal status u be ok
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I would expect that if you had legal status u be ok
From the Guardian
As confusion reigned, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security made a striking admission when she told Reuters people holding so-called green cards, making them legal permanent US residents, were included in the ban.

“It will bar green card holders,” wrote Gillian Christensen, acting DHS spokeswoman, in an email.
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Trump: The less immigrants we have the better!
Pence: The fewer.
Trump: Shssshh, don't call me that in public yet.


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Old Jan 28th 2017, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
90- day ban on entry for anyone from Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Exceptions for diplomatic visas.

60 days for other countries to provide necessary info Trump wants, if not provided citizens from those countries will be barred from travel to the US.

Various departments ordered to review what info the US Gov't needs to vet visitors and provide a list of countries that don't provide said info.

State Dept ordered to stop issuing visas to Syrian nationals and halt the processing of Syrian refugees. Remains in effect until Trump has determined enough security changes have been made.

4 month suspension of broader refugee program.

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Exceptions made to refugees claiming persecution due to their religion if their religion is a minority religion, such as Christians in a Muslim country.

Prioritizing Christians could be unconstitutional.


Trump's sweeping executive order bars all Syrian refugees from entering U.S. - World - CBC News
Where in the constitution does it state the President doesn't have authority to let in refugees who are persecuted because of their religion ?
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