God save America
#16
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Re: God save America
And politics/international agreements differ from that how, exactly?
#17
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So is it likely that every career politican knows better, that they can run the country better than a reality star or a past president that was a [bozo] movie actor?
Charity begins at home
#19
Re: God save America
wait on a minute, the US national debt doubled in Obam's 8 year term from $10 trillion to edging $20 trillion. Not a good record for a career politician or its foreign then secretary Clinton
So is it likely that every career politican knows better, that they can run the country better than a reality star or a past president that was a [bozo] movie actor?
Charity begins at home
So is it likely that every career politican knows better, that they can run the country better than a reality star or a past president that was a [bozo] movie actor?
Charity begins at home
#20
Re: God save America
Before crucify the new US President, lets wait & see in his new role if he & all his handlers can do something to 'make America great again', after all it can't get any worse than what it is now, can it?
People can only wish & hope things in America will be better, 'a better America' makes the rest of the world a better place
#22
Re: God save America
of course, as do I remember the Vietnam war that ran with four or was that five US president term of office & all the debt that it created
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Re: God save America
wait on a minute, the US national debt doubled in Obam's 8 year term from $10 trillion to edging $20 trillion. Not a good record for a career politician or its foreign then secretary Clinton
So is it likely that every career politican knows better, that they can run the country better than a reality star or a past president that was a [bozo] movie actor?
Charity begins at home
So is it likely that every career politican knows better, that they can run the country better than a reality star or a past president that was a [bozo] movie actor?
Charity begins at home
Realistically, because of the way its system can lead to gridlock, and different people with very different aims occupying (1) the spending part (2) the revenue part and (3) the block-any-change-of-either part of government, you can't assign budgetary blame the way you can in a Parliamentary system. In Canada, Britain, Germany, a party/coalition sets the budget, the spending, the taxes, etc, and they might aim for a surplus, or a deficit, or a deficit to grow the economy for a surplus in the future, or austerity to cut the debt to give more money to spend in the future, or whatever - but they have a coherent set of controls. If you don't like the economic results of May, or Trudeau, or Merkel, you can point at someone and know it was them. For the US, that was only even possibly the case for Obama for 2 years (and even then, he didn't have the control a PM does), and for Trump now (likewise).
Ironic, considering a primary idea behind Presidential systems is the ability to assign personal praise and blame for results
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Re: God save America
He just convinced the rust belt he could bring back jobs to the region. He didn't have to convince a majority of voters and he didn't convince the majority, but he convinced enough in the correct mix of states and that is all he needed.
The majority of voters as a nation voted for someone else.
If we didn't have the silly electoral college system in place, he never would have won.
The majority of voters as a nation voted for someone else.
If we didn't have the silly electoral college system in place, he never would have won.
Last edited by scrubbedexpat091; Jan 20th 2017 at 8:19 pm.
#27
Re: God save America
Michael Paarlberg:
Most of the world’s great strongmen give great speeches – should we be disappointed that ours does not? Trump’s inaugural address veered from religious pieties to dystopian hellscapes – “American carnage,” in his words – yet by the end, raising a clenched fist in defiance of the hated Washington elites he now commands, there could be little doubt of his authoritarian credentials. There was something reassuringly familiar in his decree that “the people will become the rulers of this nation again,” and his promise of a government “controlled by the people”.
Every day, the people will rule more,” promised Hugo Chavez in 2011. “The people will be the ones who decide,” said Nicolás Maduro last year. Erdogan: “There is no power higher than the power of the people.” Generally, the greater the invocation of the people, the greater the president’s cronies will be fleecing the country. These are definitely not the people
This American carnage stops right here and stops right now,” he promised, as if had just inherited the problems of Venezuela.
Last edited by Shard; Jan 20th 2017 at 8:27 pm.
#30
Re: God save America
He just convinced the rust belt he could bring back jobs to the region. He didn't have to convince a majority of voters and he didn't convince the majority, but he convinced enough in the correct mix of states and that is all he needed.
The majority of voters as a nation voted for someone else.
If we didn't have the silly electoral college system in place, he never would have won.
The majority of voters as a nation voted for someone else.
If we didn't have the silly electoral college system in place, he never would have won.