Re: GB news
 

The BBC has less a traditional 'left/right' bias, but more a metro bias, (and that's been said time and again, even by BBC staff). I mean, it's hard to know what Labour really stands for to be able to say that the BBC supports the Labour agenda :D

If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.

Re: GB news
 

There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Re: GB news
 

Bit kind to The Epoch Times but, overall, seems reasonable enough.

Re: GB news
 

I agree that the BBC has a metro bias, but unfortunately that's true of the entire British establishment. The only time you ever see a Government minister outside of London is when they're gurning for the cameras in a tractor factory. In fact I think politicians believe it's mandatory to wear a hi-vis vest if they venture out of London. However, to be fair to the BBC it's also the only major media outlet that DOES maintain a huge network of local TV and radio studios producing significant output. So while we can moan about the BBC News being metro-biased, we all of us have 30 minutes of local BBC news immediately after the main news - few, if any, other media outlets can match that.

Re: GB news
 

True for TV but there is local radio and for the BBC News website - which many access, especially folk like us who are not in the UK - there are local sections to read.

I just looked at Bristol and was surprised to be offered particular areas within Bristol :blink:

Re: GB news
 

In theory, perhaps, but in practice these outlets are typically insidious and do not challenge viewpoints that meet their agenda and they will often provide a platform for demagogues and charlatans. You may feel you are becoming "more informed" from hearing both sides but often the opposite is true.

The best solution is to do research and read testimonials and evidence yourself on topics to come to a reasoned opinion. If you are going to watch it, remember to think very critically about everything being said.

Re: GB news
 

I made no assumption based on your "simple question about how to watch a new news channel.", I wondered the same. Stating that gammon is a racist term, says a lot, you may be unaware of the full communicative impart of that statement, but I made no unfounded assumptions.

Re: GB news
 

Guffaw guffaw..... :rofl:

Re: GB news
 

Now thats a very interesting guide... have never read some of those centre publications, but as it also says in that guide centre is not always best, as they omit certain bits of information in not wanting to sound too left or too right.... best to read both both credible soruces I guess, like I said. you can piece together your own story then... its getting harder to do though these days, both sides have become more extreme in order to out do each other. :rolleyes:

Thanks for sharing... :thumbup:

Re: GB news
 

This simply isn't true. The Republicans and Conservatives have jumped into batshittery such that figures formerly considered hard right, such as Bush and Thatcher, now look like moderates, but no one else has moved. Kier Starmer isn't wildly left of Harold Wilson and Biden is just a whiter shade of Obama. The idea that the liberals of today are somehow extreme leftists is, itself, right wing propaganda.

My personal fave, AOC, espouses policies that would have made her a wet Tory in the Major era.

Re: GB news
 

Well obviously that is a subjective view..... depending on your own political bias. Thatcher and Bush were simply staunch passionate right wing politicians not hard right..

Both sides have become more extreme nowadays... as its got into a war of "one-up-manship"
The left have also metamorphosised into something they never were years ago...the traditional left was just about looking after the working man, socialism, unions etc now, its more about moral sanctimony and to be seen up on their holier than thou perch.....political correctness has also become more extreme where even TV shows are being removed from some platforms.... Fawlty Towers for example... the best sitcom of all time, why?? there is this inability to put then and now into their relative contexts.... the world evolves, you cannot compare life of the past to the life of today.

Oh and come on, Corbyn was hard left... he made the labour party unelectable, even my left wing friends admitted to that one!

Re: GB news
 

Which leaders of the UK or US governments prior to Thatcher and Bush the younger took positions to the right of them? I see them as boundary pushers in that regard. Ted Heath, for example, would not have flogged off the housing stock, a national asset, for the sake of blind ideology..

I think political correctness as a concept is a creation of the right. No one actually cancelled Christmas, that's just nonsense the Mail makes up for the gammon. Has Fawlty Towers recently been removed from the BBC or some other quango, some medium where the government has influence? It's not my thing, some toff being racist, so I don't know where it was shown, but if it was on a privately owned facility then presumably they removed it because people won't pay to watch that sort of thing any more. Wouldn't it be agonizingly dated, like Monty Python, anyway?

Re: GB news
 

I get nearly all of my news from The Viz. It's old school I grant you but still the most objective and comprehensively researched.

Re: GB news
 

Thatcher was pro-EU. Cameron was just a posh wet who was scared/bullied into pandering to the extreme right just to avoid party conflict.But he allowed the extreme right to gain traction, and here we are... now in a situation where the previously batshit crazy are now mainstream. With their own TV channel where they can wail about how awful the normals are and calling anyone to the left of them Marxists.

The BBC *might* be a tad liberal, many would argue otherwise, but apart from the BBC, let's have a look at the UK national media and decide where the balance really lies:

Left/Liberal
Channel 4
The Guardian
The Observer
The Mirror
The Independent

Right/Conservative
The Times
The Sunday Times
The Telegraph
The Sunday Telegraph
The Daily Mail
The Sunday Mail
The Sun
The Sun on Sunday
The Express
The Sunday Express
ITV
GB News

That's just off the top of my head while I'm typing. Circulation/viewing wise, I'd estimate that the right have comfortably 75-85% of the total. That hardly warrants the position of being the "unheard forgotten voices" that GB News is portraying, is it? On the one hand they're claiming that a platform like GB News is necessary because they don't have a voice in the media, but on the other hand... Brexit!

Re: GB news
 

Well yes, Conservatives at the time supported idea of an affluent middle class and that meant a successful economy. It's only recently that they've moved openly to the position that the well-being of the economy doesn't matter so long as an inner circle of jolly coves is doing well. I don't think the voters in the Thatcher era would have fallen for the nonsense the current government trots out, lie after lie, treaties signed in bad faith, constant corruption but then a public that voted for Brexit really is one of gullible gammon.

It's the teachers, innit? "Educated" a generation of idiots.