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calgarycarole Jun 13th 2021 4:39 am

GB news
 
Morning all.

I have VPN so I can get BBC, but I’ve no idea how to get Andrew Niels new GB TV. I’ve been in Alberta for 40 years, (I know - love everything here except the TV), so terms such as Freeview Sky etc don’t mean anything. If I down load the freeview app will I be able to get GBnews in that. Can I pay a subscription to Sky or whatever with a Canadian CC to get that service? Thanks.


Danny B Jun 13th 2021 11:53 am

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Works fine for me on my computer.

https://www.gbnews.uk/watchlive


Oink Jun 13th 2021 1:56 pm

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Is this going to be the British version of Fox News?

dbd33 Jun 13th 2021 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 13017329)
Is this going to be the British version of Fox News?

I don't imagine they can go as far. Fox isn't a news channel but an entertainment one so people on Fox can say anything at all, there's no obligation to truth. GB News is some form of news channel so I suppose they're limited to frothing lunacy in the manner of the Daily Mail.

calgarycarole Jun 13th 2021 2:33 pm

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[QUOTE=Danny B;13017307]Works fine for me on my computer.



Thanks so much. Also found an App. No VPN needed

calgarycarole Jun 13th 2021 2:33 pm

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Thanks

Jingsamichty Jun 13th 2021 8:09 pm

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I won't be watching it, but describes itself as having an "anti-woke" agenda; there's a segment called "Woke Watch", which sounds a bit like George Orwell's Two Minute Hate.

Apparently last night there was an anti-lockdown discussion and some frothing about footballers taking the knee. Sounds like Gammon TV.

Teaandtoday5 Jun 14th 2021 4:53 am

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I think Andrew Doyle is on it. He does the (funny, IMO) Titania McGrath Twitter account.

calgarycarole Jun 14th 2021 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13017376)
I won't be watching it, but describes itself as having an "anti-woke" agenda; there's a segment called "Woke Watch", which sounds a bit like George Orwell's Two Minute Hate.

Apparently last night there was an anti-lockdown discussion and some frothing about footballers taking the knee. Sounds like Gammon TV.

I asked for information on how to view this TV channel, and you sent a horrible racist reply. Gammon is a type of meat and not a fit description of a white person. It’s derogatory and racist as are lots of names for POC. Such language has no place in private or public discourse

I prefer to watch a wide variety of mainstream news, and social media news on *all sides* of the political spectrum. This way one’s views are broadened and not narrowed into an echo chamber. Perhaps you could try it. It help you be more respectful in your language. You certainly have a long way to go.

kimilseung Jun 14th 2021 3:01 pm

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017676)
. Gammon is a type of meat and not a fit description of a white person. It’s derogatory and racist as are lots of names for POC. Such language has no place in private or public discourse
.

i thought your lot loved those Great British institutions? If the phrase was good enough for Dickens, who coined it, its good enough for me, maybe you just hate British things?

Danny B Jun 14th 2021 3:51 pm

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Gammon :lol:

I had to Google what it meant and had a huge laugh at this clip :rofl:



Siouxie Jun 14th 2021 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017676)
I asked for information on how to view this TV channel, and you sent a horrible racist reply. Gammon is a type of meat and not a fit description of a white person. It’s derogatory and racist as are lots of names for POC. Such language has no place in private or public discourse

I prefer to watch a wide variety of mainstream news, and social media news on *all sides* of the political spectrum. This way one’s views are broadened and not narrowed into an echo chamber. Perhaps you could try it. It help you be more respectful in your language. You certainly have a long way to go.

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calgarycarole Jun 14th 2021 5:53 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13017679)
i thought your lot loved those Great British institutions? If the phrase was good enough for Dickens, who coined it, its good enough for me, maybe you just hate British things?

Here you go with again with name calling. ‘You lot’. ‘Maybe you just hate British things’. Making assumptions again.

As long as one person is speaking in a derogatory way - and making unfounded assumptions about the other person, there is not room for dialogue and understanding. I originally asked a perfectly simple question about how to watch a new news channel. And immediately you made many assumptions about me. The one thing you didn’t assume was that I like to hear and read about diverse views, especially ones that may hold *different values* and *different political views* from my own. This is what helps one to grow. My conversation (if one could call it that) with you is over. Hope you have a wonderful life, making unfounded assumptions about all you meet. Adios.

calgarycarole Jun 14th 2021 5:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13017687)
Gammon :lol:

I had to Google what it meant and had a huge laugh at this clip :rofl:


A lengthy discussion about name calling. This is exactly the problem. It could actually be a satirical clip from a comedy show. Thanks for sharing.

dbd33 Jun 14th 2021 10:48 pm

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017710)
. I originally asked a perfectly simple question about how to watch a new news channel.

Calling it a channel for gammon seemed generous to me. Isn't that the target market?

There's a gulf between taking on all sides of the spectrum, with say the Telegraph on the right and the Guardian on the left and embracing the weirdos, GB News, Fox, Health Freedom News, the Morning Star, the Daily Mail, Newsmax World Weekly News, National Enquirer, Breitbart. Consuming sensationalist tripe published at the very limit of legally acceptable distortion isn't healthy even if you balance it with subscriptions to the Atlantic and the New Yorker

Jingsamichty Jun 15th 2021 1:30 am

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017676)
I asked for information on how to view this TV channel, and you sent a horrible racist reply. Gammon is a type of meat and not a fit description of a white person. It’s derogatory and racist as are lots of names for POC. Such language has no place in private or public discourse

I prefer to watch a wide variety of mainstream news, and social media news on *all sides* of the political spectrum. This way one’s views are broadened and not narrowed into an echo chamber. Perhaps you could try it. It help you be more respectful in your language. You certainly have a long way to go.

My post was not IN ANY WAY racist, but I feel I have rather touched a nerve with you by suggesting that GB News - or GBeebies - is a platform for those with gammony views.

Danny B Jun 15th 2021 2:11 am

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017711)
A lengthy discussion about name calling. This is exactly the problem. It could actually be a satirical clip from a comedy show. Thanks for sharing.


You have to give the left credit for coming up with 'Gammon', I think it's absolutely hilarious. No difference whatsoever than the right calling the left 'snowflakes' etc.

Partially discharged Jun 15th 2021 4:27 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13017760)
Calling it a channel for gammon seemed generous to me. Isn't that the target market?

There's a gulf between taking on all sides of the spectrum, with say the Telegraph on the right and the Guardian on the left and embracing the weirdos, GB News, Fox, Health Freedom News, the Morning Star, the Daily Mail, Newsmax World Weekly News, National Enquirer, Breitbart. Consuming sensationalist tripe published at the very limit of legally acceptable distortion isn't healthy even if you balance it with subscriptions to the Atlantic and the New Yorker

Pedantic mode on.:thumbsup: It's not World Weekly News, it's Weekly World News.

https://weeklyworldnews.com/

Unfortunately online only now but probably easier to read without everyone at the supermarket checkout knowing your reading habits.

Ed Anger is alive and well. https://weeklyworldnews.com/category/opinion/ed-anger/

caretaker Jun 15th 2021 4:32 am

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 13017894)
Pedantic mode on.:thumbsup: It's not World Weekly News, it's Weekly World News.
Unfortunately online only now

Weekly World News was the only press organ to follow the exploits of Bat Boy, or give Vanna's alien baby decent coverage.

Paul_Shepherd Jun 15th 2021 5:40 am

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017711)
A lengthy discussion about name calling. This is exactly the problem. It could actually be a satirical clip from a comedy show. Thanks for sharing.

Over the last few years, I think the western world has gone crazy...the left and the right never seemed to be this way, but now many people get very personal and feel insulted if you have the opposite political view to them, why? this is a new thing, unheard of a few years ago, I can't keep up with the slang terms and names coming from both sides these days....its descended into a comedy show.

We don't get straight forward unbiased news reporting anymore from the media, we get left or right wing opinions, depending on what we watch/read, and this is the problem. I don't want opinions foisted upon me from media outlets, I just want the unbiased facts that remain in the context that they came from, not "selective reporting" laced with their opinion

So like you say its a case of having to watch/read both left and right wing news sources in order to establish your own opinion on world affairs and events, the main stream media now is a joke.



dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 6:01 am

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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 13017915)
Over the last few years, I think the western world has gone crazy...the left and the right never seemed to be this way, but now many people get very personal and feel insulted if you have the opposite political view to them, why? this is a new thing, unheard of a few years ago, I can't keep up with the slang terms and names coming from both sides these days....its descended into a comedy show.

We don't get straight forward unbiased news reporting anymore from the media, we get left or right wing opinions, depending on what we watch/read, and this is the problem. I don't want opinions foisted upon me from media outlets, I just want the unbiased facts that remain in the context that they came from, not "selective reporting" laced with their opinion

So like you say its a case of having to watch/read both left and right wing news sources in order to establish your own opinion on world affairs and events, the main stream media now is a joke.

Watch the BBC. Problem solved.

dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 6:04 am

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 13017894)
Pedantic mode on.:thumbsup: It's not World Weekly News, it's Weekly World News.

Sorry. I used to pick the longest queue so as to have time to read it but shopping fashions have changed, and the queue now isn't at the till, so I hadn't even noticed its disappearance.

Danny B Jun 15th 2021 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13017919)
Watch the BBC. Problem solved.

The middle is the most miserable place to be in the intensely polarised world of modern politics because everybody thinks you’re wrong.

I think John Cleese summed it up perfectly.


Jingsamichty Jun 15th 2021 7:15 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13017919)
Watch the BBC. Problem solved.

Be in no doubt that the independence of the BBC is slowly but surely being reeled in by the Tories. They won't be happy until it has red, white and blue livery and learns to do as it's told.

The fact that so many right-wingers think the BBC is leftie shows how utterly biased most of the other media is. It's the singular most highly-regarded news outlet in the whole world, yet half the UK population thinks it's Marxist.

dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13017950)
Be in no doubt that the independence of the BBC is slowly but surely being reeled in by the Tories. They won't be happy until it has red, white and blue livery and learns to do as it's told.

The fact that so many right-wingers think the BBC is leftie shows how utterly biased most of the other media is. It's the singular most highly-regarded news outlet in the whole world, yet half the UK population thinks it's Marxist.

Yes, I've heard. Laura Kuenssberg's cozy relationship with Bozo is symptomatic of that rot.

Partially discharged Jun 15th 2021 11:56 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13017921)
Sorry. I used to pick the longest queue so as to have time to read it but shopping fashions have changed, and the queue now isn't at the till, so I hadn't even noticed its disappearance.

When I was at university in Waterloo, one of my roommates regularly bought The Economist, The Wall Street Journal and the Weekly World News at a store near our house and he bought the "News" for a balanced approach to life.

Reminds me of an experience a few years ago, at Heathrow, at W H Smiths where the pin striped fellow in front of me was buying The Times and the Sun. He said the Sun was to figure out what the mouth breathers were interested in.

Paul_Shepherd Jun 15th 2021 12:39 pm

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Well yes the BBC serves as one half of my news source, I need to sought the other half though before I can form a balanced opinion. I am astounded you think its an unbiased news source....there is no such thing these days.

calgarycarole Jun 15th 2021 12:41 pm

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Almost agree. I find PBS close to being balanced most of the time.

dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13018047)
Almost agree. I find PBS close to being balanced most of the time.

Yes, PBS is fine. I'd also say the Atlantic is pretty balanced. I read the Spectator sometimes to catch up on the hard, but not frothing. right.

dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 13018045)
Well yes the BBC serves as one half of my news source, I need to sought the other half though before I can form a balanced opinion. I am astounded you think its an unbiased news source....there is no such thing these days.

What's your other half for balance, the NYT? Maybe the Guardian?

neill Jun 15th 2021 1:04 pm

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The BBC has less a traditional 'left/right' bias, but more a metro bias, (and that's been said time and again, even by BBC staff). I mean, it's hard to know what Labour really stands for to be able to say that the BBC supports the Labour agenda :D

If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.

Danny B Jun 15th 2021 1:58 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13018049)
What's your other half for balance, the NYT? Maybe the Guardian?

There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings


dbd33 Jun 15th 2021 2:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13018065)
There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Bit kind to The Epoch Times but, overall, seems reasonable enough.

Jingsamichty Jun 15th 2021 7:03 pm

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Originally Posted by neill (Post 13018055)
The BBC has less a traditional 'left/right' bias, but more a metro bias, (and that's been said time and again, even by BBC staff). I mean, it's hard to know what Labour really stands for to be able to say that the BBC supports the Labour agenda :D

If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.

I agree that the BBC has a metro bias, but unfortunately that's true of the entire British establishment. The only time you ever see a Government minister outside of London is when they're gurning for the cameras in a tractor factory. In fact I think politicians believe it's mandatory to wear a hi-vis vest if they venture out of London. However, to be fair to the BBC it's also the only major media outlet that DOES maintain a huge network of local TV and radio studios producing significant output. So while we can moan about the BBC News being metro-biased, we all of us have 30 minutes of local BBC news immediately after the main news - few, if any, other media outlets can match that.

BristolUK Jun 15th 2021 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by neill (Post 13018055)
If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore.

True for TV but there is local radio and for the BBC News website - which many access, especially folk like us who are not in the UK - there are local sections to read.

I just looked at Bristol and was surprised to be offered particular areas within Bristol :blink:


CanadaJimmy Jun 16th 2021 6:47 am

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017676)
I prefer to watch a wide variety of mainstream news, and social media news on *all sides* of the political spectrum. This way one’s views are broadened and not narrowed into an echo chamber.

In theory, perhaps, but in practice these outlets are typically insidious and do not challenge viewpoints that meet their agenda and they will often provide a platform for demagogues and charlatans. You may feel you are becoming "more informed" from hearing both sides but often the opposite is true.

The best solution is to do research and read testimonials and evidence yourself on topics to come to a reasoned opinion. If you are going to watch it, remember to think very critically about everything being said.

kimilseung Jun 16th 2021 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by calgarycarole (Post 13017710)
Here you go with again with name calling. ‘You lot’. ‘Maybe you just hate British things’. Making assumptions again.

As long as one person is speaking in a derogatory way - and making unfounded assumptions about the other person, there is not room for dialogue and understanding. I originally asked a perfectly simple question about how to watch a new news channel. And immediately you made many assumptions about me. The one thing you didn’t assume was that I like to hear and read about diverse views, especially ones that may hold *different values* and *different political views* from my own. This is what helps one to grow. My conversation (if one could call it that) with you is over. Hope you have a wonderful life, making unfounded assumptions about all you meet. Adios.

I made no assumption based on your "simple question about how to watch a new news channel.", I wondered the same. Stating that gammon is a racist term, says a lot, you may be unaware of the full communicative impart of that statement, but I made no unfounded assumptions.

Paul_Shepherd Jun 17th 2021 4:14 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13018049)
What's your other half for balance, the NYT? Maybe the Guardian?

Guffaw guffaw..... :rofl:

Paul_Shepherd Jun 17th 2021 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13018065)
There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Now thats a very interesting guide... have never read some of those centre publications, but as it also says in that guide centre is not always best, as they omit certain bits of information in not wanting to sound too left or too right.... best to read both both credible soruces I guess, like I said. you can piece together your own story then... its getting harder to do though these days, both sides have become more extreme in order to out do each other. :rolleyes:

Thanks for sharing... :thumbup:

dbd33 Jun 17th 2021 4:34 am

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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 13018690)
both sides have become more extreme in order to out do each other. :rolleyes:

This simply isn't true. The Republicans and Conservatives have jumped into batshittery such that figures formerly considered hard right, such as Bush and Thatcher, now look like moderates, but no one else has moved. Kier Starmer isn't wildly left of Harold Wilson and Biden is just a whiter shade of Obama. The idea that the liberals of today are somehow extreme leftists is, itself, right wing propaganda.

My personal fave, AOC, espouses policies that would have made her a wet Tory in the Major era.


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