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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 11530968)
They certainly like to think so.
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11530976)
Look at Jian Ghomeshi! Moved here and rose to the top against all odds.
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11530985)
Well, there isn't any "odds" is there ?
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11530989)
Institutional racism.
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 11530047)
Yeah, and people keep demanding that innocent people must take action. No, they don't have to do anything. This isn't the middle east - people can do as they please.
What if the terrorists were Christian? - Telegraph |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11531026)
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Yorkiechef
(Post 11530958)
Anyway, thanks for the input, I'll take absolutely no notice of you. Perhaps we may meet in Calgary cowboy!
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Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 11531077)
Who is that aimed at exactly? You posted that as a reply to me which suggests something, but I don't know what.
However the article is aimed at everyone. Magnum liked it, so that's two "likes" so far. |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11531026)
The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria. When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity. When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado. I think some words should be chosen more carefully. |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11531089)
You seem to be the only one taking an (opposing) interest in the issue, and assert that innocent people do not need to take action. The article paints a scenario where innocent people do feel compelled to take action.
However the article is aimed at everyone. Magnum liked it, so that's two "likes" so far. I just dislike your view that all Muslims must do this and must do that. Sure, if an individual wants to then that would be great, but if they don't then that is ok too. You are more "if you are not with us you are against us", and that kind of us vs them attitude does more harm than good. |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11531096)
The author uses the word "we" in connection with reaction to the Anders Brievik incident. The incident was in Norway and the Norwegians responded in a balanced, sane manner without hysteria.
The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria. When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity. When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado. I think some words should be chosen more carefully. https://www.intellihub.com/france-fu...ake-shootings/ Like a scene out of Nazi Germany, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian announced Tuesday that 10,000 Army troops will be deployed into the streets to secure “sensitive points†in wake of the recent shooting attacks whi |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Gosh, 18 pages! post 1 summed it up perfectly:
Starters, legislation to ban halal meat, all animals to be slaughtered with the least stress on the animal, no face veils, stop building mosques, no Islamic schools, no Islamic laws..... Oh, it doesnt suit you? You need these things? Find another country to live in, this is our country and its not changing anymore. |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11531096)
The author uses the word "we" in connection with reaction to the Anders Brievik incident. The incident was in Norway and the Norwegians responded in a balanced, sane manner without hysteria.
The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria. When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity. When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado. I think some words should be chosen more carefully. With the French, I have a feeling that it's early days. On the news tonight they spoke to Jews who are intending on leaving the country. They have mobilised 15000 troops internally, not sure if that fits your criteria for hysteria. It's Germany who are the real interesting player on this topic. Pegida. Just because hysterical slanders emerge when heads are chopped, that does not mean that there are not genuine underlying issues to be dealt with. I think Canada handled the threat efficiently, and any bravado was earned. |
Re: Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11531119)
Not much need for hysteria with Breivik because he's not part of an expansionist ideology with thousands more foot soldiers.
With the French, I have a feeling that it's early days. On the news tonight they spoke to Jews who are intending on leaving the country. They have mobilised 15000 troops internally, not sure if that fits your criteria for hysteria. It's Germany who are the real interesting player on this topic. Pegida. Just because hysterical slanders emerge when heads are chopped, that does not mean that there are not genuine underlying issues to be dealt with. I think Canada handled the threat efficiently, and any bravado was earned. Have you a strong stance on Prince whats-his-name having sex with underaged slaves groomed by a convicted American billionaire sex offender? |
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