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iaink Jun 27th 2008 3:04 am

Flying the flag?
 
In light of a recent comment about how you cant fly the flag in the UK without being labelled a racist, I was wondering how many of the expat canadian resident contingent here have taken the opportunity to fly the flag of their choice here, safe from any negative connotations...

A "british" flag in this context could be the union flag, or one of the constituent national flags, or the lion rampant, etc.

Mikey B Jun 27th 2008 3:06 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509874)
In light of a recent comment about how you cant fly the flag in the UK without being labelled a racist, I was wondering how many of the expat canadian resident contingent here have taken the opportunity to fly the flag of their choice here, safe from any negative connotations...

I fly the St Georges Cross alongside a bigger Maple Leaf!

AmyDavid Jun 27th 2008 3:09 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
My OH wants to get a Union Jack to fly alongside a Maple Leaf

Elaine B. Jun 27th 2008 3:13 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
Maybe when I move back to Northern Ireland I'll put up a Canadian flag just to confuse the locals.

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:15 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 6509893)
My OH wants to get a Union Jack to fly alongside a Maple Leaf

Union Jack? where is he originally from?

Biiiiink Jun 27th 2008 3:19 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
I think they must be banned around here, I haven't seen a single flag anywhere. Or can you not ban people flying flags? I know they don't like wooden fences, vinyl siding and a whole lot of other silly stuff... must dig out the restrictive covenant and see if flagpoles are in there too.

Souvenir Jun 27th 2008 3:19 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by jempee (Post 6509905)
Union Jack? where is he originally from?

A ship, presumably.

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 3:29 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by jempee (Post 6509905)
Union Jack? where is he originally from?

Huh? :confused:

Is it called something else now?

Jingsamichty Jun 27th 2008 3:36 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
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Here's what's outside my house - I think the colours go so prettily with my Maple Leaf flag.

I wouldn't fly the Union flag though, as apparently that's just racist.

iaink Jun 27th 2008 3:38 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6509958)
Huh? :confused:

Is it called something else now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag


I must say I am shocked by the level of flag flying apathy...

iaink Jun 27th 2008 3:39 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 6509972)
Here's what's outside my house - I think the colours go so prettily with my Maple Leaf flag.

I wouldn't fly the Union flag though, as apparently that's just racist.

Tell me you googled that and didnt just happen to have it handy...

happy hatter Jun 27th 2008 3:40 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 6509893)
My OH wants to get a Union Jack to fly alongside a Maple Leaf

Please, it is the Union flag not the Union Jack!

Sorry but this one of my biggest pet hates.

HH

clynnog Jun 27th 2008 3:40 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 6509921)
I think they must be banned around here, I haven't seen a single flag anywhere. Or can you not ban people flying flags? I know they don't like wooden fences, vinyl siding and a whole lot of other silly stuff... must dig out the restrictive covenant and see if flagpoles are in there too.

Never heard of restrictive covenants on wooden fences before...chain link fences I've heard of in some subdivisions. Is the fence restriction a height limit thing?

I've seen flags that are two sided with one side being the Canadian flag and the other being a number of df't ones (including Italian, German, Quebec, England, UK, Scotland, USA) that would be suitable for many df't situations.

dbd33 Jun 27th 2008 3:40 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509979)
I must say I am shocked by the level of flag flying apathy...

I don't have a pole.

Novocastrian Jun 27th 2008 3:42 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Biiiiink;
I think they must be banned around here, I haven't seen a single flag anywhere. Or can you not ban people flying flags? I know they don't like wooden fences, vinyl siding and a whole lot of other silly stuff... must dig out the restrictive covenant and see if flagpoles are in there too.

When we bought our house, there was a Canadian flag flying over the porch. We left it up for about a year after moving in so as not to be seen as disrepectful.

After the year, we knew our neighbours well enough to discover that they all found the flag (and the previous owners) to be obnoxiously ostentatious.

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:42 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6509958)
Huh? :confused:

Is it called something else now?

No, as in why would you want to. Personally talkin of course. Just wondered what part of 'Great Britain' that he originates from.

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 3:44 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509979)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag


I must say I am shocked by the level of flag flying apathy...

So is it politically incorrect to refer to it as the Union Jack?

Or is just that someone got all anal about the fact that is not always flown as a "jack"?



Re the apathy, never have been a flag waiver and see no reason to fly one on my property. However if someone else wants to then they can go for it.

iaink Jun 27th 2008 3:46 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by happy hatter (Post 6509984)
Please, it is the Union flag not the Union Jack!

Sorry but this one of my biggest pet hates.

HH

Why? Technically either is perfectly correct according to wikipedia.

iaink Jun 27th 2008 3:46 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6509986)
I don't have a pole.

Neither do I, and I have two flags...

There are a few other flag wavers in the neighbourhood, so it doesnt look too out of place.

I probably wouldnt had it not been that when I became a canadian citizen my (canadian) wife threw a suprise party, and of course there were flags as part of the decoration.

For the sake of balance, I got hold of a Union Jack, partly so the kids would recognise it and its significance, as I figure that should be part of their heritage. Round here most people think its just an "loyalist" flag until they look closer.

During major international footy tournaments the UJ is replaced with a tatty old St Georges cross... although not at the moment:(

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:49 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
Union flag just doesnt sound right to me. :unsure:

Souvenir Jun 27th 2008 3:49 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
I recall a few Crosses of St George from my Oakville days, and a larger number of Crosses of St Andrew.

I can only think of one house around here that sports a flag. Two, actually; the Maple Leaf and fleur-de-lis. I own a large Maple Leaf flag. I nicked from the High Commission. It has been in a box for over ten years.

Jingsamichty Jun 27th 2008 3:49 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509980)
Tell me you googled that and didnt just happen to have it handy...

Of course!

dbd33 Jun 27th 2008 3:49 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509996)
Neither do I, and I have two flags...

I have a Stars and Stripes, it came with a previous house. Not much point in flying that though due to being a not-American and a not-Yankee.

Madmac Jun 27th 2008 3:49 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509996)
Neither do I, and I have two flags...

Liverpool and Everton flags I presume? :p

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:50 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by clynnog (Post 6509985)
Never heard of restrictive covenants on wooden fences before...chain link fences I've heard of in some subdivisions. Is the fence restriction a height limit thing?

I've seen flags that are two sided with one side being the Canadian flag and the other being a number of df't ones (including Italian, German, Quebec, England, UK, Scotland, USA) that would be suitable for many df't situations.

Thats a good idea. Thanks for the thought. :thumbup:

happy hatter Jun 27th 2008 3:51 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509993)
Why? Technically either is perfectly correct according to wikipedia.

My point exactly!

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 3:52 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 6510003)
I recall a few Crosses of St George from my Oakville days, and a larger number of Crosses of St Andrew.

I can only think of one house around here that sports a flag. Two, actually; the Maple Leaf and fleur-de-lis. I own a large Maple Leaf flag. I nicked from the High Commission. It has been in a box for over ten years.

I could adopt the Cross of St George as my own 'cause that's my birfday.:p :)

Are you sure said flag is still in the box? 10 years is a long time and the moths could have got at it by now. :p

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:54 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
So would most fly the 'canadian' flag then as opposed to the province flag? only i know how i feel about the 'Union Jack' (or Union flag!)

We have a few English flags and OH did say we should get a BC flag also :unsure:

Souvenir Jun 27th 2008 3:54 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6510014)
I could adopt the Cross of St George as my own 'cause that's my birfday.:p :)

Are you sure said flag is still in the box? 10 years is a long time and the moths could have got at it by now. :p

Do moths eat nylon?

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 3:55 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by happy hatter (Post 6509984)
Please, it is the Union flag not the Union Jack!

Sorry but this one of my biggest pet hates.

HH


Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6509993)
Why? Technically either is perfectly correct according to wikipedia.


Originally Posted by happy hatter (Post 6510012)
My point exactly!

Explain please.

Your latest answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to your original statement.:confused::confused::confused:

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 3:56 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 6510022)
Do moths eat nylon?

Point taken. :rofl:

jempee Jun 27th 2008 3:56 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6510025)
Explain please.

You latest answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to your original statement.:confused::confused::confused:

oh it wasn't just me then :confused:

AmyDavid Jun 27th 2008 3:58 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by jempee (Post 6509989)
No, as in why would you want to. Personally talkin of course. Just wondered what part of 'Great Britain' that he originates from.

Why don't you just say what you mean? Does it matter what part of Great Britain he comes from and if so, why?

jempee Jun 27th 2008 4:02 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 6510038)
Why don't you just say what you mean? Does it matter what part of Great Britain he comes from and if so, why?

Forget it, was curious is all :thumbdown:

ann m Jun 27th 2008 4:02 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 
I've never been a flag-flying person - and if I'm honest, find it all a little uncomfortable and I'm not exactly sure why. Could be something to do with having parents from Northern Ireland, and Union Jacks and Tricolors had such powerful allegiances !

It's sad, but like many people now, I just associate the flag-waving with a world cup or a sports event. So I'm not loud and proud.

There is a large Maple Leaf 'flag' in the centre pages of our local newspaper, with a prize going to anyone who is photographed waving it at our Canada Day concert next week. I'd feel odd waving it, and mortified if I won :confused:

AmyDavid Jun 27th 2008 4:06 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by jempee (Post 6510052)
Forget it, was curious is all :thumbdown:

Rubbish. You had a (I would imagine) pompous remark to make about him. So go ahead....

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 4:07 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 6510065)
Rubbish. You had a (I would imagine) pompous remark to make about him. So go ahead....

Oh FFS who p*ssed in your cornflakes this morning?:mad:

happy hatter Jun 27th 2008 4:07 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6510025)
Explain please.

Your latest answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to your original statement.:confused::confused::confused:

Please see my bold in the previous post. Wiki is something anyone can add their opinion to therefore it is'nt always factual. (Apart from Wiki BE:thumbsup:)

My point being IMO Wiki is often technically incorrect. As far as I am concerned if HM calls it the Union Flag, which she does, then its the Union Flag.

HH

Steve_P Jun 27th 2008 4:09 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by happy hatter (Post 6510068)
As far as I am concerned if HM calls it the Union Flag, which she does, then its the Union Flag.

HH


Well if that don't beat all. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

jempee Jun 27th 2008 4:10 am

Re: Flying the flag?
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 6510054)
I've never been a flag-flying person - and if I'm honest, find it all a little uncomfortable and I'm not exactly sure why. Could be something to do with having parents from Northern Ireland, and Union Jacks and Tricolors had such powerful allegiances !

It's sad, but like many people now, I just associate the flag-waving with a world cup or a sports event. So I'm not loud and proud.

There is a large Maple Leaf 'flag' in the centre pages of our local newspaper, with a prize going to anyone who is photographed waving it at our Canada Day concert next week. I'd feel odd waving it, and mortified if I won :confused:

Feel weird when i go to a hockey game with regards to the national anthem..not sure why. Although it doesnt quite have the same punch as the English one :rofl:

During footie when in England have flown the St. Georges cross - hurriedly swept in in the dead of the night, when the lose as normal :rofl:

My sort of thinkin with the Union Jack being flown with regards to who fly it and where they are from. To me and what i've seen/heard i know of no Irish persons that would want to fly the Union Jack.


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