Mordko

Vote buying with taxpayers’ own money always involves paying certain target groups. I can’t think of an election-timed handout which gave money to everyone. Yet every election we have politicians targeting certain groups, which is why our tax code looks so messy. If you think that selectivity proves that politicians never bribe target groups with taxpayer money because it “would alienate…” Fine.

This time sending $500 cheques in August regardless of needs or Covid impacts was more blatant than usual. And we know for a fact that Trudeau has fondness for corrupt practices, is unethical and broke the law on several occasions. Why did he pick this particular target group? Question for Trudeau.

P.S. I apologize profusely and in advance if I said something you don’t like about Saint Justin.

BristolUK

You say that as if I'd vote for him.
He was a breath of fresh air after Harper and in comparison he is a saint. But that's not difficult.

dbd33

You aint 'eard me speak, mate. I've always been a target of class warfare.

scrubbedexpat091

Probably explains why I don't like the liberal party much.

Mordko

It was interesting to read the opinion of Tom Mulcair, someone who has actually fought the election fight in the past:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/fede...show-1.5557982

Quote:

When word leaked over the weekend that Justin Trudeau was asking his candidates to share any “wow” ideas they might have for the campaign, seasoned organizers from all parties were gobsmacked.
When you’re in power and you get to choose the date of the election, you’re not supposed to be last out of the starting blocks.

BristolUK

Wow. Someone who actually fought an election. Whatever next, My experience crossing the street, by a pedestrian.

Almost Canadian

I'll bite...

Accepting that Harper's personality was non-existent, what policies did he put into place that you believed smelled, and how has Trudeau corrected them?

Mordko

We need a statistician to properly compare the probability of an individual crossing the street vs the probability of leading a major Canadian party during an election campaign. Close run thing.

BristolUK

Considering that most people in Canada drive everywhere it might be closer than you think

Mordko

Trudeau on the campaign trail:

Good words. Sure sounds like a man who KNOWS how to solve this problem. Of course house prices didn’t listen and just about doubled since this speech. City centres are bursting with homelessness.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...sing-1.3220479

At least he is good at recycling. Here is the 2021 version of his promises: https://liberal.ca/our-plan-for-affordable-housing/

dbd33

I don't think much of Trudeau but no party to the right of him is going to do anything for the homeless, it was Mike Harris who first filled the parks with people who no longer had anywhere else to go. Are you advocating voting for the NDP?

Mordko

NDP is better than Trudeau’s Liberals but… no, thank you. Didn’t think Mike Harris was in the running this time around but sure lets focus on different leaders from other parties, centuries and jurisdictions. What was Gladstone’s opinion about all this?

BristolUK

Says the person who has mentioned two such names.

This is what I meant about hypocrisy earlier. It's okay for you but anyone else does it is treated to sarcasm.

Mordko

Pardon? “Such names”?

dbd33

Mike Harris is an exemplary Conservative. He led a government in Canada so it doesn't seem to me to be out of bounds to mention him when considering Conservatives in Canada. I haven't introduced a monster of foreign conservatism such as Priti Patel or Ted Cruz.

Harris took from the poor, gave to the rich and made the socially disadvantaged homeless. He socialized business losses while privatizing profits (the split of Ontario Hydro being a case in point). I don't say these things by way of accusation, they were the policies he stood on and enacted, they reflect core Conservative values. He's now a slum lord, working in an industry his government's policies created. If someone wanted a tax break for the rich they might have voted for Harris, if they cared about the homeless, even if only because they shit in the park and that's ugly, they would not have voted for Harris.

If you think this week's Conservatives are different from last week's Conservatives, well, bless your heart.