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Old Jun 28th 2008 | 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
The problem with so called positive discrimination is that the old farts end up last, specifically the older white males.
And what would be so wrong in that ? The man has proved over man decades to be utterly useless at running government, nation, global affairs, the environment (as guardians of Gaia).

First: dismantle and destroy the NWO
Second: enable grass roots democracy that doesn't run from the "old white fart" down.
Third: An apparatus that actually listens to the little fella and has the concerns of the general population in mind, not the top richest 5% or most powerful media/industrialist honky pig-dogs.
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
Put bluntly, some might not appreciate being next to someone breastfeeding.

Some might not appreciate being next to a man wearing brown. Society cannot pander to these weird hang ups.
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by Rich_007
And what would be so wrong in that ? The man has proved over man decades to be utterly useless at running government, nation, global affairs, the environment (as guardians of Gaia).

First: dismantle and destroy the NWO
Second: enable grass roots democracy that doesn't run from the "old white fart" down.
Third: An apparatus that actually listens to the little fella and has the concerns of the general population in mind, not the top richest 5% or most powerful media/industrialist honky pig-dogs.
ffs put the pipe down
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by nikki dreaming
ffs put the pipe down
Nah just pass it this way.
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Nah just pass it this way.
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
Put bluntly, some might not appreciate being next to someone breastfeeding. What I am getting at is the lack of privacy.
In the absence of a response from Mike (its Saturday - probably out I know....) anyway, I am rightly or wrongly assuming that the Privacy issue he has issue with is that is should be done behind closed doors.

The worrying thing is that the excerpt that MMC's snippet did not put further into the lime light is that...and for me, I’ve been left gob smacked by this week’s news that the government is introducing legislation against loving your child: This Equalities Bill will mean that it will be an offense to stop a woman breastfeeding her child in public. But there is a catch and here’s the catch they are hiding, though. This is ONLY valid until the child is six months of age. WTF do they do then - go to MacDonalds for burger and fries?

At any time beyond that, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with INDECENCY. Yes, you read that right. In a culture of page three girls and pornographic magazines visible in shops where children can see women’s breasts being exploited for sexual gratification and lust, women who meet their child’s biological needs in public will be considered criminals.

After all, baby goats drink goats milk, and lambs drink sheep's milk, cows milk is meant for COWS.

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Old Jun 28th 2008 | 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by Harrypottermouse
In the absence of a response from Mike (its Saturday - probably out I know....) anyway, I am rightly or wrongly assuming that the Privacy issue he has issue with is that is should be done behind closed doors.

The worrying thing is that the except that MMC's snippet did not put further into the lime light is that...and for me, I’ve been left gob smacked by this week’s news that the government is introducing legislation against loving your child: This Equalities Bill will mean that it will be an offense to stop a woman breastfeeding her child in public. But there is a catch and here’s the catch they are hiding, though. This is ONLY valid until the child is six months of age. WTF do they do then - go to MacDonalds for burger and fries?

At any time beyond that, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with INDECENCY. Yes, you read that right. In a culture of page three girls and pornographic magazines visible in shops where children can see women’s breasts being exploited for sexual gratification and lust, women who meet their child’s biological needs in public will be considered criminals.

After all, baby goats drink goats milk, and lambs drink sheep's milk, cows milk is meant for COWS.
How does this work then when the world health organisation recommends that babies are breast fed until they are 2 years of age???
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by Harrypottermouse
In the absence of a response from Mike (its Saturday - probably out I know....) anyway, I am rightly or wrongly assuming that the Privacy issue he has issue with is that is should be done behind closed doors.

The worrying thing is that the except that MMC's snippet did not put further into the lime light is that...and for me, I’ve been left gob smacked by this week’s news that the government is introducing legislation against loving your child: This Equalities Bill will mean that it will be an offense to stop a woman breastfeeding her child in public. But there is a catch and here’s the catch they are hiding, though. This is ONLY valid until the child is six months of age. WTF do they do then - go to MacDonalds for burger and fries?

At any time beyond that, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with INDECENCY. Yes, you read that right. In a culture of page three girls and pornographic magazines visible in shops where children can see women’s breasts being exploited for sexual gratification and lust, women who meet their child’s biological needs in public will be considered criminals.

After all, baby goats drink goats milk, and lambs drink sheep's milk, cows milk is meant for COWS.
OMG thats terrible. when you breast feed you cant see anything anyway. i breast fed both my children and there was only a few places that offered a place to feed. what are you suppost to do. starve them or just use a bottle so not to offend
 
Old Jun 28th 2008 | 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by nikki dreaming
How does this work then when the world health organisation recommends that babies are breast fed until they are 2 years of age???
Originally Posted by Arrona
OMG thats terrible. when you breast feed you cant see anything anyway. i breast fed both my children and there was only a few places that offered a place to feed. what are you suppost to do. starve them or just use a bottle so not to offend


Well let's not get into the damage that Nestle are causing....with their aggressive method of advertising formula milk. Have you noticed in the UK there is no advertising for bottles, or for formula milk? Have you ever wondered why?
 
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Originally Posted by Harrypottermouse
In the absence of a response from Mike (its Saturday - probably out I know....) anyway, I am rightly or wrongly assuming that the Privacy issue he has issue with is that is should be done behind closed doors.

The worrying thing is that the except that MMC's snippet did not put further into the lime light is that...and for me, I’ve been left gob smacked by this week’s news that the government is introducing legislation against loving your child: This Equalities Bill will mean that it will be an offense to stop a woman breastfeeding her child in public. But there is a catch and here’s the catch they are hiding, though. This is ONLY valid until the child is six months of age. WTF do they do then - go to MacDonalds for burger and fries?

At any time beyond that, a woman breastfeeding in public can be charged with INDECENCY. Yes, you read that right. In a culture of page three girls and pornographic magazines visible in shops where children can see women’s breasts being exploited for sexual gratification and lust, women who meet their child’s biological needs in public will be considered criminals.

After all, baby goats drink goats milk, and lambs drink sheep's milk, cows milk is meant for COWS.
Exactly .. that is what I was getting at. The woman needs her privacy. But the kid who needs to be fed doesn't/can't understand all this and so will scream its head off if not fed. Perfectly normal!

So does the kid go hungry or does one risk offending some old fart (of either gender) who doesn't want to understand. It is a delicate situation and that is what I was getting at.

(PS .. For myself, the sight of a nipple with a kid at the end of it, doesn't bother me in the least.)

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Old Jun 28th 2008 | 8:14 am
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We were very lucky to have been able to feed our first child. She was born with an immediate need for an operation....she suffered with Ankyloglossia. A condition which ties the tongue to the floor of the mouth.

The short sightedness of the NHS still staggers me and beggars belief.....they don't do anything about it, so they won't diagnose it. They won't diagnose it because they don't want to have to treat it.

We had to travel to a specialist in Southampton (Dr Mervin Griffiths) to get this operation performed against the wishes of our GP...a man....as he did not think that this condition affected feeding.

Well, try this....lock your tongue to the floor of your mouth....then try to simulate licking an ice cream or the top of a yogurt pot lid....it is impossible. Then think about how many times a day that you run your tongue over your teeth, dig out bits that get stuck....

Then imagine denying these childhood rights of passage to your child. So then how can you deny them the food of life - Milk what ever age they are it is still the stuff of life.
 
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
Exactly .. that is what I was getting at. The woman needs her privacy. But the kid who needs to be fed doesn't/can't understand all this and so will scream its head off if not fed. Perfectly normal!

So does the kid go hungry or does one risk offending some old fart (of either gender) who doesn't want to understand. It is a delicate situation and that is what I was getting at.

(PS .. For myself, the sight of a nipple with a kid at the end of it, doesn't bother me in the least.)

What gets me too even more riled than anything.....if these so called Breastfeeding companies/places/shops/resturants etc. rate the practice so highly and follow the government guidelines as to infant feeding....then why are all (with the exception of John Lewis IME) do they put the chair next to the toilet/nappy bin or change stations.
 
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Originally Posted by Harrypottermouse
What gets me too even more riled than anything.....if these so called Breastfeeding companies/places/shops/resturants etc. rate the practice so highly and follow the government guidelines as to infant feeding....then why are all (with the exception of John Lewis IME) do they put the chair next to the toilet/nappy bin or change stations.
to be quite honest i didnt care, if my baby was screaming i would just feed them. i am sure that the screaming was more offensive. it was so discret you couldnt see anything.
 
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to be quite honest i didnt care, if my baby was screaming i would just feed them. i am sure that the screaming was more offensive. it was so discret you couldnt see anything.
Same here, i fed anywhere never had any complaints
I was discreet though.
 
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Same here, i fed anywhere never had any complaints
I was discreet though.
Good thing you didn't get any compliments, if you get my drift
 


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