Re: Cricket
 

I would rather have Rashid as leg spinning all rounder (99 runs in 2nd inns to save current county match vs Soms).
Root covers your conventional offie role, Rashid moves it t'other way.

Mind you, I'm from Yorks, so I'm biased ;)

Re: Cricket
 

Its his batting or lack of batting they're not too keen on.

Re: Cricket
 

It's true Moeen has a slightly better FC batting av (38.37 vs 35.78)
But then Adil has the better bowling av (34.18 vs 38.99)

Moeen has done a decent job, but that horrorshow in WI was worrying; (although it has to be said Moeen was returning from injury and shouldn't have been selected).

I just feel Rashid is the better wicket taking option, which has been our problem recently (esp if Jimmy ain't swinging it).

Re: Cricket
 

Rashid to me is a bolwer who can bat- a #8- whereas I see Moeen as more of a genuine allrounder.

Re: Cricket
 

We have Stokes as an all rounder. I'd prefer bowlers picked on their ability to take wickets rather than their batting prowess.
:p

Riley of Kent and Kerrigan of Lancs may be the spinners we need, but for my money, Rashid is the best Eng qualified spinner playing county cricket at present. His batting and fielding are a bonus.

I do like Moeen though. The beard to be feared! :rofl:

Re: Cricket
 

Anyone know how you can record a live stream? I want to watch the next test tonight but I'll naffed if I'm staying up all night to do it.

Re: Cricket
 

Call for Gozit :)

Re: Cricket
 

Or just move to the maritimes, watch it in the evening, and spend the change from the move on a tanker full of champers.

Re: Cricket
 

That's an idea Oink, I gather the fishing is pretty good off the East Coast, especially the seafood!:thumbup:

That's a bit drastic even for Oink!

Re: Cricket
 

Yah but you're swapping your 2-bed condo for a harbour. With lighthouse.

I have the jitters about the first day in Cape Town- too many batsmen have got a start and not gone on. There are runs to be had chaps...

Re: Cricket
 

I won't be going nowhere east of here, well not in Canada anyway. I got to lunch last night and caught the last ten overs. If we can bat well tomorrow morning, we could put up a big first innings score.

Re: Cricket
 

Well stapp me vitals if that wasn't a proper good bang by young Mr Stokes. That will take some catching.

Re: Cricket
 

Splendid indeed. I was trying to explain to my 6-year-old, asd he kept interrupting the dulcet tones of the TMS team's meanderings on iPlayer, how a team can be 600-odd runs to the good but "you can't really tell who's winning yet, it'll take another day or two to see what happens." That may have been rather more prescient than I meant it to be, since Amla seems to be settling in nicely at 133no as I type...

Re: Cricket
 

Unless weather conditions change this has a draw written all over this. Or if England could hold on to their catches. :(

Re: Cricket
 

A draw, you say? I don't think there's much chance of anything else, now.

Does SA's declaration, two runs short of England's hefty first-innings score, diminish the impact of Ben Stokes' runfest on day 2? With England being put in to bat 20 minutes before the close on day 4, and with a nominal 2-run lead at the changeover, I suppose it's possible that anything might happen on the last day. But only 15 wickets have been taken altogether in the first four days, so I somehow don't think it's likely. Unless Cook has a rush of blood to the head and declares just before tea tomorrow with a reachable but ambitious total for SA to chase in the last session-and-a-bit.

Re: Cricket
 

Blatantly plagiarized from the Graun's OBO....

“I think England have missed a trick here. Stokes should have opened, made 1,010 not out before lunch tomorrow, thus giving Broad and Anderson ample time to take 10 wickets.”

:blink:

Re: Cricket
 

:sarcasm:
I'm *so* looking forward to England bowling at this fella in a few years time...

India teen Pranav Dhanawade's record-breaking innings in pictures - BBC News

(love those bowling figures 6-0-142-0)

Re: Cricket
 

Christ that's worse than me!

Re: Cricket
 

I saw that on the BBC earlier. Poor old Tejas Misar - how the hell do you get hit for nearly 24 an over through six overs? Mind you, his colleagues didn't fare much better - only the two opening bowlers had an economy rate under 15 per over (at 14.2 and 13.7 respectively, hardly much to write home about).

Re: Cricket
 

I think poor Tejas, with his 14 years of life experience, might have been a bit unlucky.

I'm reminded of the first competitive game of basketball my then 8 year old
elder son played for the U-14 team in Heidesheim (a village in Germany).

The score was 99-1 against because the other team had an American ringer from the Army base nearby, who was 13, over 6 feet tall and, well, extremely talented.

Re: Cricket
 

I remember a story about the late, great FS Trueman. A local CC had a U15 team who needed practice, so they arranged a match against FST's school. FST's school was bowled out for 15 or so. Hahaha. Until FST took 8 or so wickets to help bowl the club out for 11.
:)

Re: Cricket
 

Yes, something like that. They're just kids learning to play at that age.

In football games in many countries (including parts of Canada) they don't even keep score for the youngest ones.

Re: Cricket
 

well, yes. I hadn't read the full report (the Grauniad has a rather good writeup) so didn't appreciate that it was effectively an U16 team playing against U14 opposition. Quite why the coach of the fielding side didn't forfeit the game when they were 500-or-so in deficit is rather curious. I mean, there's character-forming and then there's complete pisstake.

Fair play to the batsman though - he played himself in then swung the bat at junior bowlers on a small pitch and made a shedload: in any circumstances it's a hell of a feat of concentration to stand at the crease for that long at that age. But it was hardly a fair competition.

Re: Cricket
 

I'm not knocking the achievement of the batsman. As the Graun article points out the previous record innings was accrued in similar circumstances in 1899.

Re: Cricket
 

The leagues might not, but sure as eggs is eggs, the players do (although any two of them rarely agree what that score actually is at any point beyond about 1-0).

Under the Ontario Soccer Association's guidelines, the house league in my local club starts publishing results and league tables at U13 level. My son's team, in that age group, was on the wrong end of some embarrassingly heavy defeats last season, but managed to maintain a reasonable tactical discipline, not to mention cameraderie and enjoyment, through their descent to the bottom of the table. And the sense of achievement in securing a draw in a return match against one of the much stronger sides was worth the heartache of the previous encounter's 13-2 defeat... :)

Re: Cricket
 

Well the best of luck to your sprog. No doubt Oakville's answer to Lionel Messi (or more relevantly, Ben Stokes).

Re: Cricket
 

Oh, neither am I, at least not intentionally. I hope the record stands as valid and he occupies his corner of Wisden for many years to come! I did like the turn of phrase the Graun piece used when talking about the bowling figures: Collins' innings was all the more poignant in retrospect, of course, because so many of the players in that Clifton College house match were subsequently killed in WWI, including Collins himself. One sincerely hopes that young Dhanawade lives to enjoy the magnitude of his achievement for a long and happy lifetime.

Re: Cricket
 

Of course I echo that thought.

Re: Cricket
 

I suppose you lot on EST are just brewing the coffee right now.

DO NOT CHECK THE SCORECARD, IT'LL RUIN YOUR BREAKFAST.

Re: Cricket
 

A draw in Cape Town.

Re: Cricket
 

Yes, although when I last posted England were 116-6 shortly after lunch.

Bairstow and Ali held out nicely until the light failed. :thumbup::thumbup:

Re: Cricket
 

It was the ghost of England past. Fortunately, bad fright stopped play.


edit: Amla has stepped down as captain. :blink:

Re: Cricket
 

Didn't help much, did it? :thumbup:

Re: Cricket
 

Interesting first day's play in the fourth Test. SA built a good opening, had a bit of a wobble, but Bavuma and de Cock look like they've settled in and could still bat England out of the game tomorrow morning.

Re: Cricket
 

Apparently the ball moves about a bit in the morning at that ground so if we can get most of the remaining out before lunch we're in with a shout.

Re: Cricket
 

With Woakes in we have a very long batting line up too (at least on paper).

Re: Cricket
 

England - shredded!!!! :thumbup:

Re: Cricket
 

It was pyjama cricket, who cares ? The test score was 2-1.

Re: Cricket
 

:goodpost::britflag:

Where's the "that's not cricket" emoji???

Re: Cricket
 

I can watch it, its a lot better than icing hockey ,but problem I find with T20 is I'm often on edge but with test cricket you've got more time to study and appreciate the ebb and flow of the match while considering all the other variables so its relaxing and interesting at the same time.