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Old Oct 17th 2021, 1:35 am
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Air Canada has banned Air Canada flights from Vancouver from October 16 to 29th due to one passenger aboard Air Canada flight AC007, arriving in Hong Kong from Vancouver on Oct. 13 being COVID positive and another passenger on the same flight failed to comply with requirements set by Hong Kong.

https://www.richmond-news.com/local-...-weeks-4521527

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Old Oct 17th 2021, 2:24 am
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Air Canada has banned Air Canada flights from Vancouver from October 16 to 29th due to one passenger aboard Air Canada flight AC007, arriving in Hong Kong from Vancouver on Oct. 13 being COVID positive and another passenger on the same flight failed to comply with requirements set by Hong Kong.

https://www.richmond-news.com/local-...-weeks-4521527
Wow that's a hit for Air Canada, i wonder if there will be any further action or fines levied? Someones getting grief over this.
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Old Oct 17th 2021, 4:34 am
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What I would like to see discussed more in the general media, is that there is an alternative to vaccines for some, rather than the current vitriol of "if you are not vaccinated you are a selfish pig"
But anti-vaxxers are selfish as well as dumb. What is the alternative?
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Old Oct 17th 2021, 11:05 pm
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Over 83% of people over 11 yr old are now fully vaccinated in Ontario.

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Old Oct 18th 2021, 5:53 am
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What I would like to see discussed more in the general media, is that there is an alternative to vaccines for some, rather than the current vitriol of "if you are not vaccinated you are a selfish pig" or words to that effect, that are constantly bandied about.
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But anti-vaxxers are selfish as well as dumb. What is the alternative?
But the point Almost Canadian is trying to make is that not everyone who isn't vaccinated is an anti vaxer.. but they are treated and reviled in the same way, as if they are.

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Old Oct 18th 2021, 2:12 pm
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In Newfoundland, the Vaxpass enables those with medical exemptions to get a QR code that still shows green - like those with a vaccination record. That seems like an approach that should go some way to eliminating poor treatment of those that can't get vaccinated, assuming they have a medical exemption of course. From Friday, proof of vaccination is required to get into public spaces - restaurants etc. Interestingly enough, I received an email from my eldests Pathfinders group leader earlier. The church hall that they use for meetings now requires all groups to enforce the vaccine mandate i.e use the vaxpass for 12+. Not a problem for my daughter as she is fully vaccinated. It was a refreshingly positive move from a church though, unlike the Anglian Bishop in Central NL who is lamenting the dilemma that the rules put his church in as it's against Anglican thoelogy apparently to deny services to anyone, even if they are antivaxer loons. Given that most of the recent cases in NL including recent deaths have been linked to church groups, primarily pentecostal ones (The euphemism used is "Socially Connected Groups" in the govt reporting), his views are getting little sympathy. In contrast the local synagogue and Muslim association have embraced the vaccine requirement.
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Old Oct 18th 2021, 2:33 pm
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Around here is a stronghold of anti-vax nutters and vaccination rates locally were shocking low until ice hockey started. Children cannot participate in minor league ice hockey unless the parents have proof of vaccination. The prospect of having to spend evenings in close proximity to their children has been enough to get even the swivel eyed loons jabbed. All progress is good progress, I suppose.
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Old Oct 19th 2021, 4:34 pm
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Saskatchewan is flying 6 ICU patients to Ontario to try to take some pressure off, but Premier Moe just seems to be a little late in everything; late to ask the feds for help, late to ask the army for help, and just too late in implementing or unwilling to implement most of the things our Chief Medical Health Officer, Dr. Saqib Shahab recommends.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.6215188
Revelations that the province asked everyone else for help before going to the feds aren't winning the Premier any prizes, and the leader of the opposition is a physician who has been calling him out at every opportunity. In this solidly Conservative province (currently), the NDP will have their knives out.
The Opposition NDP has charged that the delay is political in nature given the terse relationship between Moe and the federal government.
“For over a month, we’ve been calling on the government to speak to the military, to the federal government, to get every piece of help they’re able to. And instead they’ve refused,” Meili said.
https://thestarphoenix.com/news/sask...v-for-icu-help

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Hmmmm Hamilton has a strange way of reporting fatalities. "deaths are included whether or not Covid was determined to be a contributing or underlying cause of death" - it seems if you were in a vehicle accident, had a heart attack or fell off a building - or any other reason, and then tested positive - the death is included in the statistics, despite the reason for death being unrelated... (notes) https://www.hamilton.ca/coronavirus/...es-in-hamilton



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Just got my booster; now gotta wait 15 minutes to see if I grow horns or a tail.

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Old Oct 22nd 2021, 3:10 am
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Just got my booster; now gotta wait 15 minutes to see if I grow horns or a tail.
Grow both for balance.
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But the point Almost Canadian is trying to make is that not everyone who isn't vaccinated is an anti vaxer.. but they are treated and reviled in the same way, as if they are.
Agreed, that seems to be something that society do now, unfairly judge people.....

I think if your health allows you to, then you should get vaccinated, however unvaccinated people should be lumped into the anti vax brigade until they know the reasoning behind it.
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Old Oct 22nd 2021, 12:45 pm
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Hmmmm Hamilton has a strange way of reporting fatalities. "deaths are included whether or not Covid was determined to be a contributing or underlying cause of death" - it seems if you were in a vehicle accident, had a heart attack or fell off a building - or any other reason, and then tested positive - the death is included in the statistics, despite the reason for death being unrelated... (notes) https://www.hamilton.ca/coronavirus/...es-in-hamilton

That is not what it says at all. It does not say “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.” Must be at least a contributor to count. Very clear. Not a car accident.
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This article explains the issue with counting Covid as the cause of death. https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/dea...326970?cache=.
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Old Oct 22nd 2021, 1:03 pm
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Hmmmm Hamilton has a strange way of reporting fatalities. "deaths are included whether or not Covid was determined to be a contributing or underlying cause of death" - it seems if you were in a vehicle accident, had a heart attack or fell off a building - or any other reason, and then tested positive - the death is included in the statistics, despite the reason for death being unrelated... (notes) https://www.hamilton.ca/coronavirus/...es-in-hamilton

Top of page 3 spells it out further. https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...otes.pdf?la=en

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