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scrubbedexpat091 Apr 12th 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12994494)
do you think Canada needs to order more vaccines? The federal government has ordered something like 4 times the number needed. The problems seem to be in distribution of the ones already received.

P.S. I've no ideas what "beholdenly held up" means.


Yes it certainly is not an order issue in Canada, Canada ordered lots and lots, but you can order 100 million but doesn't mean the companies will ship 100 million all at once or quickly.


As of today of the 10,620,740 vaccines received in Canada, 77.8% have been administered as of current update.

https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html

vinegarboy Apr 12th 2021 1:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12994494)
do you think Canada needs to order more vaccines? The federal government has ordered something like 4 times the number needed. The problems seem to be in distribution of the ones already received.

P.S. I've no ideas what "beholdenly held up" means.

Ordering's neither here nor there on a bureaucrat's beautiful virtual spreadsheet in Ottawa, given that the reality on the ground is that most Canadians are going to have to make do for months in the teeth of a raging pandemic with just 1 shot per declared fed govt policy because they actually have too few physical doses to fulfil the population's requirements per the mfrs' dosing protocols.

Et Anglais est Anglais.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 12th 2021 1:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
No need to self pay for the hotel if arriving from Canada? Just tell the government on arrival you can't afford it?

"the government is providing free accommodations at one of the most comfortable spots on Toronto’s airport strip: all someone arriving from outside Canada needs to tell health officers is that they can’t afford the three-day package at one of the 19 hotels enrolled in the government program."

printer Apr 12th 2021 5:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Nasal Spray offers treatment hope for COVID 19
Should we be excited? Successful trials on UK variant and a Canadian company.
I do not remember hearing about this but it popped up on UK media today

https://sanotize.com/

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 12th 2021 6:07 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12994534)
Nasal Spray offers treatment hope for COVID 19
Should we be excited? Successful trials on UK variant and a Canadian company.
I do not remember hearing about this but it popped up on UK media today

https://sanotize.com/


Seems it will be available in Israel this summer, and while not approved for anti-viral in New Zealand, it does appear the product is available for OTC sale under a different name.

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN2BE267

If I recall they have asked Health Canada for approval several months back.





vinegarboy Apr 12th 2021 8:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12994534)
Nasal Spray offers treatment hope for COVID 19
Should we be excited? Successful trials on UK variant and a Canadian company.
I do not remember hearing about this but it popped up on UK media today

https://sanotize.com/

This sounds bogus & dangerously misinforming to me.

Shard Apr 12th 2021 10:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Covidtidbit from CBC...
Apparently, the risk of being infected through touching a surface is only 1 in 10000. Seems low.

BristolUK Apr 13th 2021 1:01 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12994649)
Covidtidbit from CBC...
Apparently, the risk of being infected through touching a surface is only 1 in 10000. Seems low.

Way back it was suggested that although traces of the virus were found on surfaces X units of time later and the time varied according to the surface, it might not be in a form capable of infecting someone touching that surface..

So is this 1 in 10,000 related to that or is it because regular cleaning of multi touch surfaces has been a success and is, therefore, something that should continue to keep the risk low?

Shard Apr 13th 2021 1:12 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12994719)
Way back it was suggested that although traces of the virus were found on surfaces X units of time later and the time varied according to the surface, it might not be in a form capable of infecting someone touching that surface..

So is this 1 in 10,000 related to that or is it because regular cleaning of multi touch surfaces has been a success and is, therefore, something that should continue to keep the risk low?

No idea, it was just a comment one of the scientists made. Agree that it would be good to know whether it relates to before/after measures. The main message was that we need to be vigilant against aerosol transmission.

vinegarboy Apr 13th 2021 1:37 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12994726)
No idea, it was just a comment one of the scientists made. Agree that it would be good to know whether it relates to before/after measures. The main message was that we need to be vigilant against aerosol transmission.

It'll be that still-electrophoretically-identifiable molecular fragments of the SARS-CoV-2 viral Nucleic Acid will have been able to have been successfully PCR'd up (i.e., off swabs taken from many types of typical everyday surfaces) to detectability & positive identification.

Fragments of a viral NA aren't typically infectious (although horizontal gene transfer HGT-uptake is known to occur among microbes), & are actually a part of what a traditional inactivated-pathogen vaccine would've introduced into our bodies in order to help stimulate an immune response.

The bottom-line still being that an uninfected individual touching a surface that's just been freshly sneezed-upon by an infectious person would be a bad idea; with the badness appearing to rapidly deteriorate as the virus particles dry-out, desiccate, & die away safely to become food for surficial microbes (esp. yeasts & fungi).


Danny B Apr 13th 2021 2:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by vinegarboy (Post 12994740)
It'll be that still-electrophoretically-identifiable molecular fragments of the SARS-CoV-2 viral Nucleic Acid will have been able to have been successfully PCR'd up (i.e., off swabs taken from many types of typical everyday surfaces) to detectability & positive identification.

Fragments of a viral NA aren't typically infectious (although horizontal gene transfer HGT-uptake is known to occur among microbes), & are actually a part of what a traditional inactivated-pathogen vaccine would've introduced into our bodies in order to help stimulate an immune response.

The bottom-line still being that an uninfected individual touching a surface that's just been freshly sneezed-upon by an infectious person would be a bad idea; with the badness appearing to rapidly deteriorate as the virus particles dry-out, desiccate, & die away safely to become food for surficial microbes (esp. yeasts & fungi).

I remember watching this video last year when COVID was ramping up and absolutely shitting my pants. Thank God we know more now.



vinegarboy Apr 13th 2021 3:06 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12994754)
I remember watching this video last year when COVID was ramping up and absolutely shitting my pants. Thank God we know more now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGQEuuv9R6E

We would've had things way worse had this occurred in pre-www times, back in the 1980s/90s, before near-instant & widespread communication & info-transfer was available, as well as rapid viral Nucleic Acid sequencing, fast protein structural elucidation, & quick vaccine development.

Hopefully we'll have learned our lesson & now be ready if an enemy ever looses something like this upon us that they've already vaccinated their armed forces against...

bats Apr 13th 2021 3:55 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by vinegarboy (Post 12994497)
Ordering's neither here nor there on a bureaucrat's beautiful virtual spreadsheet in Ottawa, given that the reality on the ground is that most Canadians are going to have to make do for months in the teeth of a raging pandemic with just 1 shot per declared fed govt policy because they actually have too few physical doses to fulfil the population's requirements per the mfrs' dosing protocols.

Et Anglais est Anglais.

Your French is as bad as your English

Jerseygirl Apr 13th 2021 6:50 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
One person in Canada is reported to have blood clots after having the AZ vaccine.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 13th 2021 6:57 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12994889)
One person in Canada is reported to have blood clots after having the AZ vaccine.

And the US is suspending the US of J&J vaccine due to blood clots. 6 cases so far all female, between ages of 18 and 48.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...nson-1.5985580



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