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Originally Posted by printer (Post 12992924)

Agreed it used to happen but lately i am noticing it less and less. The other day we were in Presidents Choice and there was something all over the belt, sugar, flour i am not sure but until we asked she was not going to wipe it. Also notice coffee shops not cleaning all tables well after each use, again some do but often limited staff and nobody keeps a check, we have asked several times for a cloth to wipe table and then somebody springs into action. One store in the mall was super careful and wiped counter after every customer and debit machine too but this seems to be a small percentage now. Maybe since our numbers are increasing we will see it more

Or maybe our numbers are increasing because the percentage cleaning have reduced..

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12992914)

How long before the PHO shuts down BC? My guess is within 2 weeks at this rate.

I better check how much loo roll I have left before people start panic buying again.

Will be interesting. I thought once we got north of 1,000 they would do more, but who knows at this point.

Workplaces now will be shut down if 3 or more employees test positive, Work Safe will close such workplaces for 10 days, some like grocery stores, police departments, fire departments are exempt.

Howe Sound area last week had 410 positive cases, 1% of the population.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ril8-1.5979936

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12992735)

And yet when I had my first jab on Tuesday, the chairs in the recovery area are wiped down after you use one; the conveyor belts are swabbed down between use at the supermarkets with the number pads done similarly etc

I agree the risk is not great but these things are still done.

They've never done it in our nearest supermarket.

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12992735)

That is still done here, along with sanitizing all carts/baskets and the constant wiping down of freezer handles etc.

I would think restricting capacity in stores would be more effective than randomly cleaning things in the store but have it packed to the gills.

Can't say I have noticed any of the big box stores doing capacity reductions at any meaningful level, some smaller stores do, but the big stores don't seem to care.

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12992931)

So i am ok then as there are only 2 of us. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12992950)

The stores I have been in throughout pandemic, mostly supermarkets and pharmacies, have had very few customers inside. I would say 95% of the time I can walk straight up to the checkout. All the stores, including big box stores, have someone on the door counting people in and out.

The rate of Covid infections in Canada is edging close to - and may overtake - US levels for the first time. :eek:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56644466

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12992957)

Yeah it's not like that where I go, stores are just as busy as they always were.

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12992960)

The rate of Covid infections in Canada is edging close to - and may overtake - US levels for the first time. :eek:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56644466

If you want to compared provinces and states individually CTV has a good list they update.

According to this link Canada had 7,984 new cases today.

California new cases 2,093 as per California Public Health tweet update today.

California is 39.5 million population similiar to Canadas.

Ontario: 4,227 cases yesterday...2nd highest number to date. 18 deaths.

No doubt cases will rise even more in the coming weeks, with the Easter/spring break fall out.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-re...nths-1.5380910

I wish that Ontario (and Canadian authorities in general) would stop counting every positive test result as a 'case', particularly now they are using the rapid test kits at so many places, rather than the PCR tests which are less likely to give a false positive result. Shouldn't the number of people who are showing symptoms / have been hospitalised / are in ICU be the standard for determining how many cases there are?

Is a positive test result of relevance if the person is asymptomatic?

interesting stats and info
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/e...l?tab=labTests
https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...nt=firefox-b-d

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Highlights
â€¢ There are a total of 367,602 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ontario reported to date.
â€¢ Compared to the previous day, this represents:
â€¢ An increase of 3,065 confirmed cases (percent change of +4.3%)
â€¢ An increase of 8 deaths (percent change of -20.0%)
â€¢ An increase of 1,976 resolved cases (percent change of +12.2%)

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12993162)

Shouldn't the number of people who are showing symptoms / have been hospitalised / are in ICU be the standard for determining how many cases there are?

Yes, in terms of the effect of Covid on an individual

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Is a positive test result of relevance if the person is asymptomatic?

Yes, in terms of Covid's ability to spread.

Not having the latter included in some way helps the just flu/it's a hoax loonies who want to downplay it.

It's also known that 'long covid' may also affect those with positive test results who were asymptomatic. :ohmy:

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12993181)

It's also known that 'long covid' may also affect those with positive test results who were asymptomatic. :ohmy:

Really? Where did you read that? Presumably that would mean it could affect people who donâ€™t even realise they have had it too?

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12993202)

Really? Where did you read that? Presumably that would mean it could affect people who donâ€™t even realise they have had it too?

It seemed a logical conclusion from other things I'd read so I googled long covid asymptomatic and found a few results including WebMD which I believe is a legit medical site, but there were plenty of others

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Researchers who have scanned the hearts and lungs of people who tested positive for COVID-19, but never felt ill, have seen telltale signs of distress.

In the lungs, scientists have reported cloudy white areas called â€œground glass opacitiesâ€ in asymptomatic patients. Ground glass opacities are also seen patients with more severe COVID-19.

There's more here which I don't really understand.

And the following from Mayo.

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"This is a disease that has a number of mysteries involved, compared to the usual respiratory virus," says Dr. Gregory Poland, a COVID-19 expert at Mayo Clinic. "On the one hand, we see very severe but variable manifestations. On the other hand, (we see) infection without symptoms. We also see a diminution of immunity over time with this coronavirus."

What's just starting to emerge, according to Dr. Poland, is this idea of COVID-19 "long-haulers," which is a term used to describe people who develop long-term and ongoing complications.

"We're really seeing a number of reports of people who report long-term fatigue, headaches, vertigo (and), interestingly enough, difficulties with cognition, hair loss, cardiac issues, and diminished cardiorespiratory fitness. And I think what we're going to find out is that a large portion â€• not all, but a large portion of that â€• is likely to relate to the significant cellular-level damage that this virus can cause," says Dr. Poland.

Some of the possible long-term effects can affect even patients who are asymptomatic or have mild cases of COVID-19.

A New York Times report, possibly behind a paywall has

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Many â€˜Long Covidâ€™ Patients Had No Symptoms From Their Initial Infection An analysis of electronic medical records in California found that 32 percent started with asymptomatic infections but reported troubling after effects weeks and months later....including anxiety, low back pain, fatigue, insomnia, gastrointestinal problems and rapid heart rate