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DigitalGhost Aug 3rd 2020 4:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Stumpylegs (Post 12891747)

With regards to figures, Canada seems to be on the slow burn with similar rates to most of Europe right now - personally think that'll be the rate till winter, then it'll pick up a bit more - and we'll be back here with similar rates this time next year, with lower death rates as the most vulnerable will already have been picked off.

I've heard these kind of theories before. I'm not a virologist so can someone explain to me why if community transmission of a particular strain of illness is so low, winter weather is going to suddenly cause it to reappear from nowhere like Frosty the Snowman?

DigitalGhost Aug 3rd 2020 4:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12891750)
Clearly you are not in agreement with most of us who are living in Canada - perhaps you might if you decide to come back.

I'm not saying that additional precautions and due care shouldn't be taken, especially at the US border, I just think there are better ways of handling it that's all. Forcing someone into mandatory isolation when they've done nothing wrong and in some cases can be arriving from a place where the virus barely exists just seems a little bit cruel.

BristolUK Aug 3rd 2020 4:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Stumpylegs (Post 12891747)
With regards to figures, Canada seems to be on the slow burn with similar rates to most of Europe right now - personally think that'll be the rate till winter, then it'll pick up a bit more .

Dunno about that. Some Care homes and some workplaces aside, other spikes seem to involve people being out and about in situations where they may be more likely to be at home in the warm in winter.

Siouxie Aug 3rd 2020 4:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by DigitalGhost (Post 12891759)
I'm not saying that additional precautions and due care shouldn't be taken, especially at the US border, I just think there are better ways of handling it that's all. Forcing someone into mandatory isolation when they've done nothing wrong and in some cases can be arriving from a place where the virus barely exists just seems a little bit cruel.

Booo hooooo - are they all snowflakes?? Too bad for them - that's the regulations, suck it up sister.. it's not like you can't come here at all, you just have to follow the rules.

Quarantine discussions belong in the Quarantine thread ....... thank you.

Siouxie Aug 3rd 2020 4:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
:focus:

caretaker Aug 3rd 2020 4:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12891718)
Interesting world map of current cases.. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...international/

With under 4,000 cases and 22 deaths, I'd paint Alaska a lighter shade.

Stumpylegs Aug 3rd 2020 4:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by DigitalGhost (Post 12891756)
I've heard these kind of theories before. I'm not a virologist so can someone explain to me why if community transmission of a particular strain of illness is so low, winter weather is going to suddenly cause it to reappear from nowhere like Frosty the Snowman?

​​​​​​In no particular order reasons why it may jump up. Aside from the stock its a flu like virus, flu is more prevalent in winter

1)virus has been shown to survive longer in cooler temperatures, and damp environments. Winter is cooler and damper

2) UV has been shown to kill the virus, less of that in winter.

3) people will be less likely to spend time outside at restaurants, bars etc. as temperature drops and will move indoors

4) Overall outdoor activities will be replaced by indoor activities (swap hiking for bowling, running outside for gym running, going the mall as a family outing etc).

5) People will brush covid off as a cold/normal flu - now the whole world ducks if someone coughs/sneezes, that'll subside in winter.


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caretaker Aug 3rd 2020 4:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12891765)
:focus:

What was off topic?

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 3rd 2020 4:48 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
To be fair, the US/Canada isn't actually closed, it's restricted but not closed.







Howefamily Aug 3rd 2020 4:51 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by DigitalGhost (Post 12891759)
I'm not saying that additional precautions and due care shouldn't be taken, especially at the US border, I just think there are better ways of handling it that's all. Forcing someone into mandatory isolation when they've done nothing wrong and in some cases can be arriving from a place where the virus barely exists just seems a little bit cruel.

why is that "cruel"? Its two weeks to make sure you arent asymptomatic and bringing it with you for others to struggle with. I frankly agree with it, I think its why we are doing so well compared to other countries. It makes sense to me. Its not personal.

DigitalGhost Aug 3rd 2020 4:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Stumpylegs (Post 12891768)
​​​​​​In no particular order reasons why it may jump up. Aside from the stock its a flu like virus, flu is more prevalent in winter

1)virus has been shown to survive longer in cooler temperatures, and damp environments. Winter is cooler and damper

2) UV has been shown to kill the virus, less of that in winter.

3) people will be less likely to spend time outside at restaurants, bars etc. as temperature drops and will move indoors

4) Overall outdoor activities will be replaced by indoor activities (swap hiking for bowling, running outside for gym running, going the mall as a family outing etc).

5) People will brush covid off as a cold/normal flu - now the whole world ducks if someone coughs/sneezes, that'll subside in winter.


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:goodpost:

Thank you. That all makes perfect sense.

DigitalGhost Aug 3rd 2020 4:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12891775)
why is that "cruel"? Its two weeks to make sure you arent asymptomatic and bringing it with you for others to struggle with.

Well for one it's essentially saying that everyone from the outside world is potentially diseased isn't it. It's all a bit medieval when you think about it.

Anyway it looks like quarantine discussions are not for this thread however I'm more than happy to pick this one up in the other thread with you if you want to continue it. :)

Howefamily Aug 3rd 2020 4:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by DigitalGhost (Post 12891778)
Well for one it's essentially saying that everyone from the outside world is potentially diseased isn't it. It's all a bit medieval when you think about it.

Anyway it looks like quarantine discussions are not for this thread however I'm more than happy to pick this one up in the other thread with you if you want to continue it. :)

Not really,. I think we have to agree to disagree.

caretaker Aug 3rd 2020 5:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12891783)
Not really,. I think we have to agree to disagree.

But we're right, of course.

DigitalGhost Aug 3rd 2020 5:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12891785)
But we're right, of course.

You're not but let's not go down that road shall we. :lol:


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