Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6143952)

Do you see "organic" as refering strictly to the method of production or do you think of it as a broader category, a sort of political correctness for carrots, per Lord Melchett?

Originally Posted by pinkmcfarquhar (Post 6145122)

definitely to do with political correctness, but not only for carrots - i am not prejudiced towards green vegetables.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6145316)

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this evening I killed a groundhog with an axe, a single blow to the head. I don't think it suffered - pretty much like a seal, I imagine. .

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6145316)

I was thinking of pineapples, and salads, stuff flown from Kenya. The Soil Association debate is, I think, a bizarre one. To me food can be organic without being moral and vice-versa.

More on topic, this evening I killed a groundhog with an axe, a single blow to the head. I don't think it suffered - pretty much like a seal, I imagine. That act ignited a lively debate here over gun control, given a gun I would have shot it, I don't think that's more humane but it's less involving.

Originally Posted by daft batty (Post 6145546)

Was it cos he got the weather forecast wrong?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6145316)

I was thinking of pineapples, and salads, stuff flown from Kenya. The Soil Association debate is, I think, a bizarre one. To me food can be organic without being moral and vice-versa.

Originally Posted by pinkmcfarquhar (Post 6145654)

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Also, completely stopped buying flowers unless from local area or fair trade after reading horrendous stories about flower growing in kenya/africa - not something I had even considered up until then.

Originally Posted by oldbag (Post 6143400)

The fact that I live the way I do in no way makes me feel "holier than though" (in fact religion and anything "holy" don't have a place in my life), or better than anyone else........and I don't think for one minute you directed your comment specifically at me...........however, I do disagree with your last comment regarding accepting what is happening and shutting up. Children would still be sent up chimneys or into factories and down coal mines if it hadn't been for certain individuals campaigning against such things. The same has to be said for animal cruelty....organisations such as PETA, WWF, WSPA etc, etc, have done, and continue to do so much towards changing to way humans treat animals. There is a place in this world for compassion and kindness towards other species.........continuing research proves that animals feel pain, and have emotional lives. So no, I cannot just accept what happens and shut up.......fortunately there is a growing number of people who feel the same. :)

Originally Posted by Dave+Jules (Post 6145559)

Way wrong, perhaps we should follow the same philosophy with all weather forecasters, hairy or otherwise?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6145316)

More on topic, this evening I killed a groundhog with an axe, a single blow to the head. I don't think it suffered - pretty much like a seal, I imagine. That act ignited a lively debate here over gun control, given a gun I would have shot it, I don't think that's more humane but it's less involving.

Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 6128124)

On a positive note, the McCartneys won't be visiting Canada this time.

Originally Posted by flashman (Post 6147153)

But the Newfie seals didn't stop Paul from getting skinned!

Originally Posted by oldbag (Post 6147136)

Why did you kill it?

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 6147459)

Its a groundhog...he own horses.

Its not rocket surgery.

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 6147482)

:whatchutalkingabout

Huh ??