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Old Nov 6th 2012, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
This is a bit of a myth. People had all sorts of mechanisms for deferred payment. Catalogues, hire purchase agreements etc.
Highlight of the year when I was a kid was when the Autumn/Winter "clubbie book" (Littlewood's catalogue) arrived.

"Hey mum, could we get a drum kit? It's only two pounds a week for 100 weeks!"
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Originally Posted by Souvy
Have the rules changed? When I "worked" for the Feds back in the late 90s, such activities were an absolute no-no.
You keep your own points as the card is in your name anyway. So going to somewhere like Isreal, Germany et al on business for weeks at times, sure gives you loads of points.

The idea of a secured LOC doesn't appeal to me, don't like my credit being tied to something
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You keep your own points as the card is in your name anyway. So going to somewhere like Isreal, Germany et al on business for weeks at times, sure gives you loads of points.

The idea of a secured LOC doesn't appeal to me, don't like my credit being tied to something
Do you not trust yourself or do you simply prefer to pay a higher interest rate?
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You keep your own points as the card is in your name anyway. So going to somewhere like Isreal, Germany et al on business for weeks at times, sure gives you loads of points.
I don't understand this. If it is in your name, how is a Government one?
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I'm still confused about what to do with approx 90k Aeroplan miles. Is it worth trying to use them for flights, or is one better-off buying stuff?
I'm in a similar boat. Earn more Aeroplan miles than I know what to do with. I certainly don't want to take flights with them - I don't need to, and anyway, they stiff you with fees and taxes anyway.

The gifts will only get delivered to a Canadian address, which I don't have.
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I'm still confused about what to do with approx 90k Aeroplan miles. Is it worth trying to use them for flights, or is one better-off buying stuff?
Upgrades are the best bang for the buck, according to the man who looks closely at these things. Of course, he has a bigger bum than us and so may value a wide seat more.
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Yes, I have a mortgage, the difference is its secured debt, the house is sacrificed if I dont pay it.
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Cant say the same for a 56" LED TV can you.
Debt where you lose you house if you can't pay it isn't necessarily better.

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Consumer debt is a useful way for stores to shift product and feed the corportate beast, but it probably does more harm than good overall. Those that can afford it are no better off, they just get some stuff sooner than if they had saved for it, and those that cant afford it are in all sorts of trouble.
I agree. But I don't assume everyone who's in trouble with credit card debt has spunked it on 56" TV's, fancy holidays, and the latest apple gizmo. Those people definitely exist, but people that have had a sudden drop in income also exist. If these people have mortgages then that debt has to be paid first.
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I'm in a similar boat. Earn more Aeroplan miles than I know what to do with. I certainly don't want to take flights with them - I don't need to, and anyway, they stiff you with fees and taxes anyway.

The gifts will only get delivered to a Canadian address, which I don't have.
I've got one. Send me a 56" LCD TV please.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
people that have had a sudden drop in income also exist. If these people have mortgages then that debt has to be paid first.
Thats why when you do have a job you try and stash 10% every pay cheque... or whatever your budget will allow. That takes discipline not to go spunk it on a 56" telly or new side by side ATV or whatever.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I don't understand this. If it is in your name, how is a Government one?
Because it's issued to you based on your job, position etc on behalf of the Govt through PWGSC. You use it to carry out a task, and you put in the bill to be paid

It can't be used for personal matters
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Because it's issued to you based on your job, position etc on behalf of the Govt through PWGSC. You use it to carry out a task, and you put in the bill to be paid

It can't be used for personal matters
So why are the rewards not handed back to the State?
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I don't understand this. If it is in your name, how is a Government one?
I don't understand it either. I worked for the Feds (DFAIT) 96-2000. Trips to Canada were quite frequent. Having (using, at least) any form of loyalty card was a sacking offence, on the grounds that people would fiddle their trips to fit in with what suited their avarice. It may have changed since then.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Debt where you lose you house if you can't pay it isn't necessarily better.


I agree. But I don't assume everyone who's in trouble with credit card debt has spunked it on 56" TV's, fancy holidays, and the latest apple gizmo. Those people definitely exist, but people that have had a sudden drop in income also exist. If these people have mortgages then that debt has to be paid first.
I agree.
Debt is debt, and it's senseless being snobby about those who carry a credit card balance.

How did we make the jump from "if you cant afford it, dont buy it with credit" to people buying stuff they cant afford and then not paying the bills? There are plenty of people do carry a balance and pay all of their bills on time.

If you don't carry a balance on your credit card, well done, but you're probably in the minority.
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I agree.
Debt is debt, and it's senseless being snobby about those who carry a credit card balance.

How did we make the jump from "if you cant afford it, dont buy it with credit" to people buying stuff they cant afford and then not paying the bills? There are plenty of people do carry a balance and pay all of their bills on time.

If you don't carry a balance on your credit card, well done, but you're probably in the minority.
Its not snobby, its the difference between credit at 18 or 28% interest, or less than 5%

Get a line of credit and pay off the expensive balances. and then DONT RUN THEM UP AGAIN.
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Thats why when you do have a job you try and stash 10% every pay cheque... or whatever your budget will allow. That takes discipline not to go spunk it on a 56" telly or new side by side ATV or whatever.
Not everyone can afford to pay 10% every pay cheque. A sizeable number of people barely scrape by on what they earn. It's not that these people want new TV's it's that they might need their boiler fixing, or their kids need new school clothes etc. Debt is sometimes about needs rather than just wants.
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