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Old Mar 5th 2014 | 5:57 am
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Canada and Quebec?
Presuming that nobody who chooses Canada to be his/her new home, nobody is interested in any independence debates of Quebec?
Will there be a 3rd referendum?


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There will be an endless string of referenda.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
There will be an endless string of referenda.
Yes, it's a not a referendum, it's a 'neverendum' nothing else.

What bothers me personally is that as a naturalized Canadian who has chosen Canada as "his country" and "new home", these issues about separatism and uncertainty always start to come up.

I never really liked the PQ, and am wondering who in his sound mind would ever vote for them.

Independence for Quebec simply doesn't work since Quebec gets more than 3 times as much out of the equalization fund and Quebec's economy is weak.
 
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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown

I never really liked the PQ, and am wondering who in his sound mind would ever vote for them.
there are a lot of ignoramuses out there
 
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Why do people quote the National Post? If we were in the UK no one would start a political thread with a quote from the Beano.

"That means the tectonic plates underlying Canadian politics may be about to move, rather dramatically, after two decades of relative calm."

"Let’s assume Marois wins big, jolting a bolt of electricity through the embalmed corpse of the independence movement, and setting in motion the mechanics of another referendum."

It's gibberish. Random strings of text. Using the National Post as a source trivialises the issue intended to be the subject of the thread.
 
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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown
Yes, it's a not a referendum, it's a 'neverendum' nothing else.

What bothers me personally is that as a naturalized Canadian who has chosen Canada as "his country" and "new home", these issues about separatism and uncertainty always start to come up.

I never really liked the PQ, and am wondering who in his sound mind would ever vote for them.

Independence for Quebec simply doesn't work since Quebec gets more than 3 times as much out of the equalization fund and Quebec's economy is weak.
I'm sure they could become an overseas department of France. They'd even get the Euro
 
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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown
Yes, it's a not a referendum, it's a 'neverendum' nothing else.

What bothers me personally is that as a naturalized Canadian who has chosen Canada as "his country" and "new home", these issues about separatism and uncertainty always start to come up.

I never really liked the PQ, and am wondering who in his sound mind would ever vote for them.

Independence for Quebec simply doesn't work since Quebec gets more than 3 times as much out of the equalization fund and Quebec's economy is weak.
It doesn't much matter what we think. We've all arrived since the uncertainty hung over the Quebec issue so, whatever the Canadians decide to do with their country should come as no surprise to us. It's not really any of our business.
 
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It's time to call Quebec's bluff. If they did separate they'd be bankrupt within a year.

Ever since i've been in Canada, the Quebec standard in politics has been modelled on the oliver twist "please can I have some more" attitude and it has to stop.

If they went independant most of the businesses located there would probably decamp to other provinces(most have distribution but little/no manufacturing there). They'd lose billions in equalization payments and unemploment would shoot up as the federal Govt. offices closed. I think I read a stat some where that 40% of the QC working population has a govt related job. if 25% is Federal that would be a 10% rise in unemployment if all federal offices closed
 
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Im still waiting for a PQ candidate to run in my area as Id vote for them but apparently they don't run candidates outside of Quebec.
We could rename this thread if Quebec goes do you care and it would get probably the same answers as the If the Scots go do you care thread.
After listening to this for the last 26 years I DONT CARE.
Actually if the PQ ran a candidate in Alberta I think they would win as most Albertans I think want Quebec gone so we don't have to keep dealing with this issue.
Sign on to this Job Action Plan Quebec and we will give you another 155 million.
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
We could rename this thread if Quebec goes do you care and it would get probably the same answers as the If the Scots go do you care thread.
perhaps the moderator could follow up with this excellent suggestion?
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
It doesn't much matter what we think. We've all arrived since the uncertainty hung over the Quebec issue so, whatever the Canadians decide to do with their country should come as no surprise to us. It's not really any of our business.
I am actually Canadian now, and I would prefer the country to remain as one. I see myself as a citizen of Canada as it is, and that includes all provinces including Quebec.

I am not happy with the rhetoric and that endless demagoguery by the PQ, let alone that a solid business plan is missing.

Most of it is probably rhetoric and winning the masses for the PQ's gain, however, Quebec should focus more about the economy and jobs than anything else.

The fact that a Quebec under PQ rule is always "asking" and not "contributing" would make them almost certainly bankrupt within one year, if they were an independent country. Furthermore the number of employees in the federal public sector seems to be higher, these jobs will also go, once independent.

In my opinion, independence doesn't work.
 
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Originally Posted by Cabbagetown
In my opinion, independence doesn't work.
having been here since 1962, and having endured two referendums already, another one is no surprise
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
It doesn't much matter what we think. We've all arrived since the uncertainty hung over the Quebec issue so, whatever the Canadians decide to do with their country should come as no surprise to us. It's not really any of our business.
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
We could rename this thread if Quebec goes do you care and it would get probably the same answers as the If the Scots go do you care thread.
+1 to dbd33's point. To FL: yes but wouldn't it be fairer if the "do you care" question was posted in the British forum on polishexpats.com?
 
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+1 to dbd33's point. To FL: yes but wouldn't it be fairer if the "do you care" question was posted in the British forum on polishexpats.com?
Not really as polishexpats.com doesn't exist doing a google search
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Not really as polishexpats.com doesn't exist doing a google search
That's not exactly relevant to my point though. As I think you must know.

By the way, did you google in Polish? Try Polskibylipatriotami.pl

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