Bin Laden dead
May 6th 2011 | 6:20 am
#92
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Re: Bin Laden dead
Woud it have been more acceptable to you if he had shot back at those that did the shooting?
We will see if s/he wot ordered the operation is ever put on trial. If not, one must assume that s/he complied with the law of the US. Just as we have to accept that every accused that is acquited is innocent of the crime they were accused of - no?
May 6th 2011 | 6:23 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
I suppose it depends if you look at this situation as an act taken during a legitimate war.
No one would have been upset had a crack SAS brigage taken out Hitler or Goering, after all in a war they would be legitimate targets to hasten the end of hostilities.
Is the "War Against Terror" so very different? Its clearly not "nation against nation", but both sides announced their intentions some time ago. Just hard to declare war in a legal way when there is such an informal enemy.
No one would have been upset had a crack SAS brigage taken out Hitler or Goering, after all in a war they would be legitimate targets to hasten the end of hostilities.
Is the "War Against Terror" so very different? Its clearly not "nation against nation", but both sides announced their intentions some time ago. Just hard to declare war in a legal way when there is such an informal enemy.
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May 6th 2011 | 6:23 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
The problem is, when a nation states that purports to some sort of shinning-city-on-the-hill in regards to democratic values, seems to pick and choose at their convenience when those set of laws should and should not apply, even when they've written them down in a document.
May 6th 2011 | 6:25 am
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Clearly he broke the law as president, but was never tried...
May 6th 2011 | 6:26 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
I suppose it depends if you look at this situation as an act taken during a legitimate war.
No one would have been upset had a crack SAS brigage taken out Hitler or Goering, after all in a war they would be legitimate targets to hasten the end o g hostilities.
Is the "War Against Terror" so very different? Its clearly not "nation against nation", but both sides announced their intentions some time ago.
No one would have been upset had a crack SAS brigage taken out Hitler or Goering, after all in a war they would be legitimate targets to hasten the end o g hostilities.
Is the "War Against Terror" so very different? Its clearly not "nation against nation", but both sides announced their intentions some time ago.
May 6th 2011 | 6:26 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
It does apply equally to all that are part of their election process. Bin Laden was not- infact his sole aim was to destroy their ideology through any means necessary.............
May 6th 2011 | 6:28 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
May 6th 2011 | 6:29 am
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May 6th 2011 | 6:34 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
Did this occur on US soil? Did he ever subject himself to US law (I say US for the sake of space, I appreciate that International Law may have something to say about it)? Thought not. That being the case, I guess we can accept that he got what was appropriate when one engages in Jihad.
Woud it have been more acceptable to you if he had shot back at those that did the shooting?
We will see if s/he wot ordered the operation is ever put on trial. If not, one must assume that s/he complied with the law of the US. Just as we have to accept that every accused that is acquited is innocent of the crime they were accused of - no?
Woud it have been more acceptable to you if he had shot back at those that did the shooting?
We will see if s/he wot ordered the operation is ever put on trial. If not, one must assume that s/he complied with the law of the US. Just as we have to accept that every accused that is acquited is innocent of the crime they were accused of - no?
May 6th 2011 | 6:35 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
Thats not what you said here.. "We will see if s/he wot ordered the operation is ever put on trial. If not, one must assume that s/he complied with the law of the US."
Anyone know if the US is actually and in a legally binding way, "at war" with certain terrorist organisations and their personnel? There must be some sort of process to follow I imagine.
May 6th 2011 | 6:36 am
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Re: Bin Laden dead
They are not. There has been no official declaration of war (which requires a vote from congress I believe - Bush never did this, and neither has Obama)
