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Old May 2nd 2011 | 3:28 am
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What ? No trial ?
 
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What ? No trial ?
No body either.

Identified through DNA 99.9% sure, then buried at sea.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...rms-death?bn=1
 
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No body either.

Identified through DNA 99.9% sure, then buried at sea.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...rms-death?bn=1
So much for the judicial system then.
 
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Originally Posted by Tangram
So much for the judicial system then.
You mean Guantanamo Bay?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
You mean Guantanamo Bay?
Ah yes, well said sir.
 
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Originally Posted by Tangram
What ? No trial ?
The US govt. has stated that it was an assassination (not in those words).
 
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Originally Posted by Tangram
So much for the judicial system then.
Save your tears, hand wringing, indignation for someone who matters.....justice, albeit 'Summary' in nature, long overdue, has been done.
 
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Originally Posted by Souvy
The US govt. has stated that it was an assassination (not in those words).
Yep certainly looks that way.

On April 29, Obama approved an operation to move in. Helicopters descended out of darkness. Shots were exchanged. Details of exactly how the raid unfolded remain murky -- senior administration officials will only say that bin Laden "resisted."

According to a report in the National Journal, the firefight lasted 40 minutes and resulted in the deaths or capture of 22 people. Bin Laden was killed by a so-called "double tap" – two quick shots -- to the left side of his face
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...-laden-110502/
 
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Default Re: Bin Laden dead

Originally Posted by Tangram
So much for the judicial system then.
Hmm, so, for the sake of argument, say Im a navy Seal sent to go get him, and I am facing a terrorist mastermind in his own compound. If the subject is putting up some resistance that might be a threat to my plans for later in the week that involve things like "breathing in and out", am I going to lose too much sleep over shooting the SOB dead before he does the same to me?

No, I dont think I am...

Did it happen that way? We will never know...

Burial at sea, an inspired way to maintain Muslim death traditions and rituals while avoiding a heap of political headaches, and removing the obvious dangers of a shrine appearing if he was buried. I just hope everything was documented and the information is available to all to limit the inevitable conspiracy theories.


Will his death change anything in terms of how Al-Qaeda operates? I guess we will see, but I doubt it. There are bound to be some revenge attacks though, and a high profile martyr wont hurt recruitment any...

What would a trial have acheived I wonder. In theory transparent justice is the way to go, but he did send a video out that left little doubt that he was behing the 9/11 attacks, so all it would do is provide a platform for more rhetoric, allow the muslim extremists to claim it was all a sham and the verdict was pre determined, and then end up with him dead anyway after 20 years of legal appeals. Just look at the farce surrounding the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

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Originally Posted by macadian
Save your tears, hand wringing, indignation for someone who matters.....justice, albeit 'Summary' in nature, long overdue, has been done.
Summary justice is always a bad thing. He should have been tried for murder. I think this sets a very bad precident. Although I'm glad he's dead, he's now a martyr.
 
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did Bin Laden actually exist? I mean why not cremate his body after a public showing and then sell ash filled pendants for those who want them?

EDIT: i dont want one!
 
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Default Re: Bin Laden dead

Originally Posted by Souvy
The US govt. has stated that it was an assassination (not in those words).
You will have to wait for the movie to find out. Should be out shortly.
 
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Originally Posted by heading-west
did Bin Laden actually exist? I mean why not cremate his body after a public showing and then sell ash filled pendants for those who want them?

EDIT: i dont want one!
Or fed him to the pigs....then sell the very exclusive 'Bin Laden' cured bacon....

EDIT....I don't want any!
 
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Hmm, so, for the sake of argument, say Im a navy Seal sent to go get him, and I am facing a terrorist mastermind in his own compound. If the subject is putting up some resistance that might be a threat to my plans for later in the week that involve things like "breathing in and out", am I going to lose too much sleep over shooting the SOB dead before he does the same to me?

No, I dont think I am...

Did it happen that way? We will never know...

Burial at sea, an inspired way to maintain Muslim death traditions and rituals while avoiding a heap of political headaches, and removing the obvious dangers of a shrine appearing if he was buried. I just hope everything was documented and the information is available to all to limit the inevitable conspiracy theories.


Will his death change anything in terms of how Al-Qaeda operates? I guess we will see, but I doubt it. There are bound to be some revenge attacks though, and a high profile martyr wont hurt recruitment any...

What would a trial have acheived I wonder. In theory transparent justice is the way to go, but he did send a video out that left little doubt that he was behing the 9/11 attacks, so all it would do is provide a platform for more rhetoric, allow the muslim extremists to claim it was all a sham and the verdict was pre determined, and then end up with him dead anyway after 20 years of legal appeals.
Agree with all of that. There will be more questions than answers though about how he was living in that place for so long undetected etc Also will this be for Obama what the Falklands was to Mrs T?
 
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Originally Posted by jimf
Agree with all of that. There will be more questions than answers though about how he was living in that place for so long undetected etc Also will this be for Obama what the Falklands was to Mrs T?
Didnt the CIA or somesuch list the Pakistan joint intelligence agency as a pivotal part of Al-Qa'ida operations? Thats something Bob Fisk has been saying for years... that probably goes some way in explaining his living in suburbia rather than a mountain cave. Its not insignificant that the pakistan authorities were only informed of the operation after its completion.

Good for Obama? I suspect so. Not quite like a proper war though, and a terrorist backlash is to be anticipated I would guess. He needs the economy to bounce back though big time.


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