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Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:09 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Science is affected by cultural norms, attitudes and human behaviour.
So, in theory, gravity can suffer PMS?
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
You've just agreed with me Iain. Science is affected by cultural norms, attitudes and human behaviour.

Not history, social anthropology.
ooh, can we call you Bones? (or was she a cultural anthropologist?)
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Your examples don't indicate subjectivity, just potential systematic errors.

We are supposed to be comparing the UK to Canada on this thread, not Canada to say, the Papua-New Guinea tribes people. I doubt there are many significant systematic errors arising from cultural differences in the UN figures in this case.
The level of analysis is shifting all over on this thread.

Systematic errors can be culture or social or gender based assumptions.

How illness (which affect how and when people die), education, literacy, crime etc.. can and often do vary cross-culturally.

If you read the notes in those UN studies, you will see the amount of error admitted, attempted to be accounted for, expressed, etc.

And systematic error can be significant enough to render studies quite useless.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
So, in theory, gravity can suffer PMS?
Well they both really suck.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by mc_dub
ooh, can we call you Bones? (or was she a cultural anthropologist?)
Forensic anthropologist.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
You've just agreed with me Iain. Science is affected by cultural norms, attitudes and human behaviour.

Not history, social anthropology.
No I didnt, I just pointed out that there are good reasons no great effort has been put into doing the science, you cant do everything at once. That doesn't mean the science cant be done if you want to throw the funds at doing it. Its a matter of priorities innit. Its not a comment on the science itself, its a comment on the decision to do the science, which is entirely a subjective thing.

The biggie....keeping middle aged mens dicks stiff, has already been cracked...next will be male pattern baldness and then middle age spread, and then we can start to focus on less important things like pills for world hunger and AIDS, and a cure for global warming, and then perhaps when all thats done we can worry about male contraceptive pills and pills to help them remember to take them.

I cant help but think modern society has its priorities royally ****ed up, and we are fiddling with anti wrinkle creams while Rome burns and modern civilisation teeters on the brink of oblivion. But as an anthropologist that's more your area than mine I guess.

Anyway, as I said earlier, I get enough of this at home...


My, this has gone about as far from the original topic as I think Ive ever been

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Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Well they both really suck.
Quite. Women hate PMS almost as much as men do. And they hate gravity (a feeble excuse, in my opinion).
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:28 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
No I didnt, I just pointed out that there are good reasons no great effort has been put into doing the science, you cant do everything at once. That doesn't mean the science cant be done if you want to throw the funds at doing it. Its a matter of priorities innit.

Yes. And where do these priorities come from?
Rhetorical question.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:47 am
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Originally Posted by Biiiiink
No, just different. And not even that different really.



Next?
Haven't bothered to read the whole thread because it looks like it's drifted off elsewhere. But I agree with Biiiiink.

Don't believe anyone that says it's a lot better because it's all relative to personal circumstances and perception. The same as in the UK.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 2:51 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas;
The level of analysis is shifting all over on this thread.

Systematic errors can be culture or social or gender based assumptions.

How illness (which affect how and when people die), education, literacy, crime etc.. can and often do vary cross-culturally.

If you read the notes in those UN studies, you will see the amount of error admitted, attempted to be accounted for, expressed, etc.

And systematic error can be significant enough to render studies quite useless.
I haven't read the notes, but it seems from your remark as if there is recognition of imprecision: this is not the same thing as subjectivity.

Again, error can make any study useless, but, as I said, large errors are unlikely in this instance.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by stepnek
Don't believe anyone that says it's a lot better because it's all relative to personal circumstances and perception. The same as in the UK.
Quite. Souvette is a born and bred Quebecoise. In our current circumstances we are good here. If we were to win bucket loads on the lottery, we'd pretty soon be good somewhere else.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 3:27 am
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Haven't bothered to read the whole thread because it looks like it's drifted off elsewhere. But I agree with Biiiiink.
Me too!

Originally Posted by stepnek
...it's all relative to personal circumstances and perception.
I would say the area of Canada you chose to settle in seems to be the biggest single factor in determining whether people think its better than the UK or not. Just reading through some of the posts (on this thread as well as other similar threads) I get the sense that very few people in GTA or some areas of Alberta think Canada is better than the UK. People that have moved to nicer areas to live a quieter happier life away from big cities seem very happy. Its pretty obvious really when you think about it.

Ask the question of people from Canada who moved to Birmingham and you will get a very different answer to those that moved to the Lake District.
 
Old Oct 17th 2007 | 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by NSpaul

Ask the question of people from Canada who moved to Birmingham and you will get a very different answer to those that moved to the Lake District.
You're absolutely right which is why this kind of question might promote an interesting discussion but anyone considering a move needs to weigh up their own personal circumstances and how moving to Canada will specifically help them. The premise of moving to Canada for a "better lifestyle" means nothing in itself.
 
Old Oct 18th 2007 | 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by NETTY07
WE ARE WAITING TO GO TO SASKATOON AND HOPE IT IS BETTER THAN THE U.K . WE HAVE 2 TEENAGERS AND WORRY ALL THE TIME ABOUT THEM . HOPE WE ARE THERE SOON .WAITING FOR OUR WORK PERMITS THEN OFF WE GO!!!!!!!!!! ( HOW LONG WILL THEY TAKE TO COME ? )
Saskatoon is great, I love it there. It's a big town with a small town feel. All the people I met there were polite even the beggars on the Broadway. Don't let that put you off cos they really are polite.

As for teenagers I can't say but there's loads of outdoor things to do if they are active.

I think you will be very happy there, I know I would.
 
Old Oct 18th 2007 | 6:15 am
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thanks Lorna .Can't wait to get there .It has taken nearly one and a half years to get this far and we can finally see light at the end of the tunnel.
 


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