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fledermaus Apr 24th 2011 2:48 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9324165)
Don't get me wrong. I like them very much too. My fave is Laurence Harris followed closely by Tom Thompson (who isn't really one of the G7).

But I find them a bit derivative all in all.

And before Bristol does it, may I note your repeated misspelling of Moncton?

That would be ignorance on my part. Bristol is being very gracious about it.

All art is derivative I suppose.

My painting instructor was taught by someone who was apprenticed to James McDonald so does that make me a third cousin once removed or somesuch? He was from Durham too.

Novocastrian Apr 24th 2011 2:58 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9324172)

All art is derivative I suppose.

This is true. Except mine.

Tangram Apr 24th 2011 3:23 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9324159)
Ah but you know this is nitpickersanonymous.com ;)

It was the word "all" you see. I'm sure Monkton is lovely.

I'm sure it isn't and I speak from experience, not horrible just bland. Horses for courses.

R I C H Apr 24th 2011 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 9324066)
Totally agree with the first paragraph ( we moved here from the Cotswolds too funnily enough ). Disagree with the second paragraph - luck and timing play a big part in that.

They play a part, for sure, but I believe the choices you make in life are more important.


Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9324108)
Well I guess I really ****ed up bad.....Thanks for the reminder

Maybe you chose to have kids, take foreign holidays, buy nice vehicles, I've no idea what you did with your discretionary spending. It's not a matter of f*****g up, it's a matter of deciding what's important to you. I chose financial security and forgoing many of those things for a long time. Just a different priority, that's all.

jrhodes Apr 24th 2011 10:05 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lorry1 (Post 9323389)
Can't you get a dog and have kids in England? :blink:

It's a common misconception that you can get a good house here with no mortgage. Houses here are not as cheap as they were, unless you live in the middle of no where, in a fixer upper.

Why do you think you will work less for more money?
Canadians work long hours with 2 weeks holiday being the minimum (you can negotiate more). Pay is generally less here unless you're in a very good job.

Yes, you can ski. I'm not sure about ski hills in Ontario though.


Dogs and Kids in the UK? - Did you not hear that the coalition government banned them both?

Believe me I have looked at houses just outside of Ottawa in very desirable places and yep I can afford a bigger house than I can get where I'm from

I've also looked at jobs, comparable to what I am doing now, I'll have a greater disposable income even after higher taxes and slightly higher cost of living. I may only get 4 weeks holiday a year compared to 5 here but so what, I know my weekends will be a lot more fulfilling.

As far as skiing goes I'm pretty sure that just over the line into Quebec there are plenty of places to hit the slopes.

fledermaus Apr 24th 2011 10:36 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by jrhodes (Post 9324679)
Dogs and Kids in the UK? - Did you not hear that the coalition government banned them both?

Believe me I have looked at houses just outside of Ottawa in very desirable places and yep I can afford a bigger house than I can get where I'm from

I've also looked at jobs, comparable to what I am doing now, I'll have a greater disposable income even after higher taxes and slightly higher cost of living. I may only get 4 weeks holiday a year compared to 5 here but so what, I know my weekends will be a lot more fulfilling.

As far as skiing goes I'm pretty sure that just over the line into Quebec there are plenty of places to hit the slopes.

Do you have a job offer though?? Being a natural party pooper and all that but depending on what you do finding a job often isn't straightforward.

Lorry1 Apr 24th 2011 11:43 pm

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by jrhodes (Post 9324679)
Dogs and Kids in the UK? - Did you not hear that the coalition government banned them both?

Believe me I have looked at houses just outside of Ottawa in very desirable places and yep I can afford a bigger house than I can get where I'm from

I've also looked at jobs, comparable to what I am doing now, I'll have a greater disposable income even after higher taxes and slightly higher cost of living. I may only get 4 weeks holiday a year compared to 5 here but so what, I know my weekends will be a lot more fulfilling.

As far as skiing goes I'm pretty sure that just over the line into Quebec there are plenty of places to hit the slopes.

Well...good luck:unsure:

mardyarse Apr 25th 2011 3:24 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9324172)
That would be ignorance on my part. Bristol is being very gracious about it.

All art is derivative I suppose.

My painting instructor was taught by someone who was apprenticed to James McDonald so does that make me a third cousin once removed or somesuch? He was from Durham too.

"snobbery my arse" I think this sufficiently applies to yourself and Novocastrian, I made sure to copy and paste so as to avoid any human errors in spelling or interpretation:

Snobbery :noun
1.a person who imitates, cultivates, or slavishly admires social superiors and is condescending or overbearing to others.
2.a person who believes himself or herself an expert or connoisseur in a given field and is condescending toward or disdainful of those who hold other opinions or have different tastes regarding this field: a musical snob.

ExKiwilass Apr 25th 2011 4:20 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by mardyarse (Post 9325239)
"snobbery my arse" I think this sufficiently applies to yourself and Novocastrian, I made sure to copy and paste so as to avoid any human errors in spelling or interpretation:

Snobbery :noun
1.a person who imitates, cultivates, or slavishly admires social superiors and is condescending or overbearing to others.
2.a person who believes himself or herself an expert or connoisseur in a given field and is condescending toward or disdainful of those who hold other opinions or have different tastes regarding this field: a musical snob.

I don't think anyone is being snobby. Moncton isn't in the same league as Toronto or Montreal, it's just not. So what? Doesn't mean it's a bad place to live, just means if you're looking for that big city vibe you're unlikely to find it there.

BristolUK Apr 25th 2011 4:31 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9325335)
I don't think anyone is being snobby. Moncton isn't in the same league as Toronto or Montreal, it's just not. So what?

Nobody said it was. What I find annoying is the absolute dismissal of anywhere that's not one of the big few.

Apparently cheaper properties are only the back of beyond fixer-uppers that nobody wants. That's ignorant nonsense.

fledermaus Apr 25th 2011 4:53 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by mardyarse (Post 9325239)
"snobbery my arse" I think this sufficiently applies to yourself and Novocastrian, I made sure to copy and paste so as to avoid any human errors in spelling or interpretation:

Snobbery :noun
1.a person who imitates, cultivates, or slavishly admires social superiors and is condescending or overbearing to others.
2.a person who believes himself or herself an expert or connoisseur in a given field and is condescending toward or disdainful of those who hold other opinions or have different tastes regarding this field: a musical snob.

I feel honoured to have incurred your disdain.

ExKiwilass Apr 25th 2011 5:09 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9325358)
Nobody said it was. What I find annoying is the absolute dismissal of anywhere that's not one of the big few.

Apparently cheaper properties are only the back of beyond fixer-uppers that nobody wants. That's ignorant nonsense.

Sorry, but how did you get that from my post?

I just said it's probably not a bad place to live. sigh. Why are you so defensive?

I don't know why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp. Cheaper property is cheaper because there is less demand. Ergo, if property is cheap, there is probably a reason. It doesn't mean that the cheaper city is a bad place, or the back of beyond, or doesn't have amenities. It's just not as appealing as other, more expensive places.

Why am I doing this. Why. I know it's pointless? Why am I doing this?

canmoreskier Apr 25th 2011 5:14 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9316943)
Well, I've just spent two weeks in the UK and it was bloody great. I reckon anyone who is coming here from there for "a better life" or "for the kids" is seriously off their rockers.

As an aside - it was a bit of a road trip, coming in quite a bit more than 2000km. Not that I minded the driving - even though they were busy it was a pleasure to drive on roads that contained actual skilful drivers that know how to communicate with other road users properly - you know eye contact, indicating, letting you pull out etc. It's not all good though, there are lots of speed cameras every where now... sigh.

Ah, yes. The traffic jams, the road rage, the service-without-a-smile. Missing it already.

Lorry1 Apr 25th 2011 5:32 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9325358)
Nobody said it was. What I find annoying is the absolute dismissal of anywhere that's not one of the big few.

Apparently cheaper properties are only the back of beyond fixer-uppers that nobody wants. That's ignorant nonsense.

NB, like here in NS, the big cheap houses are more likely further away from the city and amenities. That's simply all I meant. I didn't say NB is crap!

Also, houses in Ottawa and Ontario in general are more expensive. That is all.

el_richo Apr 25th 2011 5:33 am

Re: Back from the UK
 

Originally Posted by canmoreskier (Post 9325430)
Ah, yes. The traffic jams, the road rage, the service-without-a-smile. Missing it already.

When did you move back to the UK?


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