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Re: Back from the UK

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9325822)

No, that is precisely what you are doing. Poster wants to live in Ontario near skiing. Another poster points out that housing isn't cheap. You come in and say that it is cheap - if you live in Moncton where hardly anyone wants to live and then tell everyone (again) about how you've bought two houses and have change. It's dishonest and slightly patronizing.

You see, there you go misrepresenting it again. Or perhaps failing to read properly.

The post I responded to said

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It's a common misconception that you can get a good house here with no mortgage. Houses here are not as cheap as they were, unless you live in the middle of no where, in a fixer upper.

That was clearly not a reference to Ontario. It reads as a general comment does it not? Particularly when a common topic on these forums has been getting more house for your pound, with some variation throughout the country.

Furthermore that post I responded to came from Atlantic Canada, where I live, and conflicted with mine and many others experiences.

You seemed to have missed all this in your eagerness to have a go at me.

I'm fairly thick skinned. I have taken barbs from Novo, DBD and others but it's never really been a personal vendetta. Why has it become so with you?

Nobody has attacked me or what I've said with such venom and such regularity as you do.

Let's do a deal. I could put you on ignore but then I wouldn't benefit from your wisdom in other matters that I'm not involved in. So why don't you just ignore me instead. I'm clearly not up to your lofty standards.

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9325831)

My Nan's best friend Estelle wants to go on holiday in Canada in July, where would you recommend? Moncton NB or Vancouver BC?

Vancouver of course. And if she could afford to live there, Vancouver too.

I wouldn't recommend anyone to visit Moncton. But someone not in the privileged few that can afford Vancouver but was still investigating Canada as a home, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9325883)

http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyDetail...Key=1612486572

At $342k, one of the cheapest places in MR. It might not be that great to live in or in a nice area, but it

What more do people want?

Looks alright.

Re: Back from the UK

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9325913)

Of course your right Moncton is cheap because demand for housing there is low

From wiki

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The Moncton CMA has one of the top ten fastest growth rates amongst metropolitan areas in Canada and is also the fastest growing urban region east of Toronto.

Wouldn't that mean demand for somewhere to live was likely to increase?

Just wondering like. ;)

And really not trying to sound sarcastic either. Just getting pissed off.:(

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9325941)

From wiki

Wouldn't that mean demand for somewhere to live was likely to increase?

Just wondering like. ;)

And really not trying to sound sarcastic either. Just getting pissed off.:(

ha ha I read that too. East of Toronto ignores a huge swathe of canada doesn't it? I think it's pretty telling that the entry has to avoid comparing Moncton to all the cities west of Toronto, or Toronto.

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Out of all the homes for sale on MLS around here atm there are only three that are more than $400k (coincidentally two of which are listed by one of our most "missed" and "respected" forum members).

Right, there are no jobs here, but your $350-$400k gets you one of these:-

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...Key=1374825856

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...dKey=660635139

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Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9325945)

ha ha I read that too. East of Toronto ignores a huge swathe of canada doesn't it?

Yes, it does. But it does include a fair chunk of Canada's population including the centre of the universe. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 9325947)

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...Key=1374825856

For that one here you would have to a zero.

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9325924)

That's the crux of the position. Mocton is a bit of of shit-hole but cheap housing, while a nicer area (Vancouver) has more expensive housing. If you could afford it, you'd recommend the nicer area. I thought we covered this five or six pages ago. Ah well, at least it's sorted.

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9325941)

From wiki

Wouldn't that mean demand for somewhere to live was likely to increase?

Just wondering like. ;)

And really not trying to sound sarcastic either. Just getting pissed off.:(

Of course the free market setting of house prices is flawed and the reality is as stated in Wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9325967)

Coming to the end of his bunac, brother-in-law (against all advice) spent a month in vancouver, as opposed to montreal. His conclusion was that he had made a bit of a cockup.

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I couldn't give a damn where anyone takes their holiday or lives for that matter, all the power to them. And, Austrian economists notwithstanding, we're just trying to identify the drivers of the housing market in Canada.

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Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 9325947)

I see he is still trying to flog the one with the tree inside:huh:

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9325967)

If I could afford it I'd live in Nice or somewhere along that coast. Unfortunately I was restricted in the same way about 99% of people are.;)

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9325979)

Of course the free market setting of house prices is flawed and the reality is as stated in Wikipedia.

:confused:
Wiki pointed out the rather large growth in population. It was me, not wiki, that thinks this must mean people need more housing. Wouldn't that mean increased demand? Or are we on top of each other or in tents?:rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9326005)

If I could afford it I'd live in Nice or somewhere along that coast. Unfortunately I was restricted in the same way about 99% of people are.;)

:confused:
Wiki pointed out the rather large growth in population. It was me, not wiki, that thinks this must mean people need more housing. Wouldn't that mean increased demand? Or are we on top of each other or in tents?:rofl::rofl:

Ok assuming that the population is growing and housing is required then why is housing cheap?

I remember something on the CBC a year or so ago looking at population movements within Canada. Essentially the message was that the west was receiving people with better economic prospects, but as prices have risen people with poorer economic prospects in the west have found it more difficult to afford to live in the west and have looked to live in the east (Quebec and maritimes).

Maybe Moncton is receiving people but it doesn't necessarily follow that they will have the money or economic prospects to drive up house prices.