dbd33

Well quite. Ian Paisley is typically Christian, is he not? He'd fit right in.

Sally Redux

Tomas de Torquemada.

Alan2005

I didn't expect that..

(I'll get my coat)

Sally Redux

Nodody does.

Almost Canadian

So, if Islam does call for the extermination of non believers (I understand that this is what the Koran calls for, even on a non-fanatical interpretation of it) aren't all Muslims, by virtue of being one, bigots?

I believe all religions to be crazy but I am curious as to why someone is only called a bigot if they are white, tattooed and "racist"

John_B

Very good. Subtle. I like it.

Alan2005

all religious mentalists are bigots, but that doesn't make white, tattooed people not bigots and not racist. unless you are citing 'two wrongs making a right' legal precedent

John_B

I'm white and I have tattoos. What label would you give me?

Oink

I like religious people I find them really funny. All that chanting, wearing funny costumes and waving their arms about is brilliant. Of course the suppression, murder and torture that sometimes comes along with it can temper the hilarity somewhat. Shame really.

Paul_Shepherd

I think your average muslim is peace loving, however many can still get quite fanatical and obsessive about things we consider just not important....take for example the cartoons of Mohammed in a Danish newspaper...which resulted in the boycotting of Danish goods, flag burning, over the top protests etc, then there was that poor teacher who was held prisoner for calling a teddy bear Mohammed???? And?......I dont really see that as blasphemous? I dont remember devout Christians getting all hot and bothered about the Monty Python film the holy grail?

It seems things are built up way out of proportion, its all down to interpretation of the Koran, many of these fanatics take passages of it totally out of context, (some of its language is quite strong, parts of it I believe is very similar to the old testament.... an eye for an eye etc) and as a result the fanatical muslims use this and over ride the peace lovers.

If I were a devout Muslim, instead of wasting energy on comparitvely unimportant issues such as the examples above, I think energy would better utlised distancing themselves from the fanatical arm of Islam and its followers....of which sometimes gives it such a bad reputation.

Alan2005

Do you tattoos say AWB and/or are swastikas?

Almost Canadian

Not at all. I am surprised at how easily bigot is thrown at the white, tattooed brigade, and not the others. I agree they are all bigots.

John_B

I've just watched the video by the Guardian. It's pretty extreme. I can see why people are worried about it.

The group does have a number of black and Indian members, although obviously in a minority. The article also mentions that the group has several hundred serving members of the armed forces.

I think to dismiss this group as simply a bunch of racist thugs could be a mistake. Although it's quite clear that the majority of them are exactly that. It seems to me that the government has a duty to look into why this group has become so popular in such a short time frame, and why it's attracting people from such diverse backgrounds. Clearly the answer is that people are uniting against what they see as a common enemy. In this case it's Islam. In the 80's the National Front were against anybody who wasn't white. This is different, and has the potential to become far more widespread.

John_B

Here's a picture of me. It was tough getting past Canadian immigration looking like this. They just thought I looked like Rasputin and we all had a good laugh.

lmartin999

They were pretty pissed off about the Life of Brian.

"The film contains themes of religious satire which were controversial at the time of its release, drawing accusations of blasphemy and protests from some religious groups. Thirty-nine local authorities in the UK either imposed an outright ban, or imposed an X (18 years) certificate (effectively preventing the film from being shown as the distributors said the film could not be shown unless it was unedited and carried the original AA (14) certificate). Certain countries banned its showing, with a few of these bans lasting decades."