magnumpi

One of the CNN reporters argued that they had over done the anti Trump message and almost blamed them selfs for making people turn against. CLinton

Showing more of her speech now, I still not heard Trump speech on CNN

evets

It reminds me of the fallout with Brexit. We did not vote to leave and we want it reversed.

Scotland now wanting another referendum as they said they wanted to stay, but when they had they had there choice to leave GB, they decided not too. No one that voted to leave went up in arms, democracy won and people accepted it.

Spain will not want to let back into the EU as then Catalonia will want its own referendum to leave.

They could get a bunch of lawyers together to say it is illegal and needs to be revoked or ask that the current government review it and pass the final decision since they are not happy with the outcome!

The people are speaking out around the world, sick and tired of the current system. Politicians today are failing the people and only interested in lining there own pockets.

Whether he is/was the right choice, it is going to be an interesting few years ahead.

Davita

Scotland's referendum was on the basis that GB was a member of EU....it didn't vote on England ruling without the buffer of EU....that's the difference.

scrubbedexpat091

Almost as many voted for Clinton if not more for her, Trump was not liked by almost half the voters.

Shard

Biased with good reason. He's totally unqualified and unsuitable for the role. Which of his policies did you find plausible?

BristolUK

Well, there's mainstream media and then there's popular media that reaches more people and, unchallenged, has a greater impact on their views.

CNN is watched in Hotel rooms, Fox News is watched in living rooms.

A quick bit of googling shows Fox as most watched most frequently. Five weeks on the trot earlier this year matching its previous record while CNN ranked 7th.

CNN is viewed all over the world. If they want to sell all over the world they can't really present their output in a way that satisfies gun toting, locker-room America

So they will have alternate views (not just one) while Fox advances only one side. Like the made up story about the Republican protester being a Democrat, when he's been registered as a Republican supporter since 2011, with a grandmother who died in 2002 but remains registered at his address so someone can vote Democrat using her name, when she is actually living and lives somewhere else.

That sort of either deliberate lie or unchecked for facts reporting makes a difference, along with all the other stuff.

There was some research leading up to the election that far more TV news time was devoted to Clinton's emails than policy matters of both sides added together.

And yet she was cleared of criminal wrong doing some time ago then it was dredged up again in a previously unheard of FBI involvement in election...and, of course, cleared again, but the damage is already done. The likely intention.

macadian

If nothing else his first 100 days should at least be entertaining...lots of "dialing back" on his stated objectives during the campaign in the offing I suspect. Will be interesting to see how his base reacts when they find out he no longer provides the 'red meat' they have been nurtured on.

Mr Trudeau should keep a handy supply of lube handy when dealing with 'The Donald' I fear 😎

dbd33

To me, the interesting thing will be to see who he nominates for the Supreme Court. He personally doesn't seem to have a position on reproductive rights (or anything else really) but he's supported by religionists and they'll be looking for an appointee who will repeal Roe vs. Wade. If he's truly a maverick he may come up with an interesting suggestion.

I expect, of course, that he'll be able to act on his policy suggestions that hurt the people who voted for him; repealing Obamacare, defunding access to abortion, without being able to do anything with the policy suggestions to help them; reviving the coal industry, putting factories back in Michigan. The easy fix for the latter is, of course, problematic for Canada as car manufacturing here is an industry based on trade agreements he wants to tear up.

It's hard to see any good for anyone coming of his election.

Partially discharged

Get used to it if you go to any form of post-secondary education (in a secular setting). Any right wing or right of centre political organization or person will be dismissed as frothing loons by the left of centre mindset that tends to dominate campus life.

Freedom of speech is a one way option on most campuses.

I have found many people you would consider to be left of centre people while at college/university, morph into champagne socialists over time and then later on become even more right of centre as they get older. Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, but I have found many to follow this pattern, especially those who work outside the academic/government orb.

Partially discharged

I get CNN and MSNBC here on TV but not Fox so my screen time may be biassed but both of them were blatently in favour of Hilary. PBS is a better option for coverage and they usually avoid the 8 or 9 people sitting around a semi-circular table shouting above each other, or the classic split screen that CNN uses with 4 pundits/experts/fart catchers all trying to get the last word and arguing with one another.

magnumpi

Well at least she has the comfort knowing she got more votes

Clinton had won 59,299,381 votes nationally. Trump, however, had only won 59,135,740 – 163,641 votes less than the Democratic candidate.

Read more: American election popular vote sees Hillary Clinton win but Donald Trump wins US election | Metro News

BristolUK

It's meaningless in the way it works of course, but at least there's a partial explanation for the Opinion Polls "getting it wrong."

dbd33

Lyndon Larouche primarily recruited on campus, probably still does, so frothing loons are not entirely excluded.

Shard

I think the opinion polls suffered from the public reluctance to express views that were contrary to the heavy anti-Trump media message. A similar thing happened in Scotland.

BristolUK

It's possible but I remain unconvinced that sufficient numbers of voters are exposed to and swayed by an anti-Trump message.

It's a long time since I saw CNN - the last time I was in a hotel room, probably - but Fox News is the source for news for many more than CNN, and I'm pretty sure their bias for Trump is far greater and, more importantly, unchallenged by interviewer and un-countered by alternative opinion, than CNN would be for Clinton.