Any Trump supporters in Canada?
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WikiLeaks founder says Barack Obama’s decision to free Chelsea Manning means he could submit to extradition request and leave Ecuadorian embassy in London
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Ah those allegations of sexual assault and rape which if found guilty would likely lead to a prison sentence.
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I thought the reason he sought asylum was that Sweden would extradite him to the US. The fact that the US has never sought his extradition didn't appear to matter to him, or to those that supported his attempts to evade the authorities.
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The irony is if Assange had faced music then he would have been free by now if he had been convicted by a a Swedish or a US court. Instead he remains a prisoner of his own volition.
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That isn't true. The danger for him the whole time has been that he might be snatched by the US and hauled off into the ether. Alleged crimes in Sweden have never been the real issue behind his asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy and Swedish police will interview him there next week regarding those charges.
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That isn't true. The danger for him the whole time has been that he might be snatched by the US and hauled off into the ether. Alleged crimes in Sweden have never been the real issue behind his asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy and Swedish police will interview him there next week regarding those charges.
If you spend 10 minutes or so reading them, you will note that the US has never sought his extradition, that Sweden indicated that they would not deliver him to the US even if the US made such a request, and that any such request would have to be dealt with by the UK courts.
It appears that you have fallen for Assange's nonsense. Are you able to explain why the US was not able to "haul him off" while he was in England?
To me, he appears to be nothing more than an alleged sex offender that is seeking to avoid justice.
In any event, it will be interesting to see the action he will take now. I anticipate that he will avoid travelling to the US as he said he would, on the basis that he is not satisfied that his rights will be satisfactorily respected.
Last edited by Almost Canadian; Jan 19th 2017 at 11:54 pm.
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This is probably one of those "they would say that, wouldn't they" moments.
"Dear America...is it true you were planning to secretly get hold of someone who was causing you embarrassment and cart them off to some undisclosed place?"
"Oh, good heavens, no. We wouldn't dream of doing something like that."
"Dear America...is it true you were planning to secretly get hold of someone who was causing you embarrassment and cart them off to some undisclosed place?"
"Oh, good heavens, no. We wouldn't dream of doing something like that."
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This is probably one of those "they would say that, wouldn't they" moments.
"Dear America...is it true you were planning to secretly get hold of someone who was causing you embarrassment and cart them off to some undisclosed place?"
"Oh, good heavens, no. We wouldn't dream of doing something like that."
"Dear America...is it true you were planning to secretly get hold of someone who was causing you embarrassment and cart them off to some undisclosed place?"
"Oh, good heavens, no. We wouldn't dream of doing something like that."
People can defend him all they wish to but, when doing so, I respectfully suggest that they at least rely upon facts. Failing which, to me, they sound little more than apologists for someone that appears to be hell bent upon avoiding facing charges of sexual assault.
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Well, it is a fact that the US has never sought his extradition and, if they had attempted to while he was in the UK or Sweden, there would be a legal process to follow. Just like there was a legal process to follow when Sweden sought his extradition from the UK. You know, the legal process that was being followed when he sought "refuge" in the embassy in which he now finds himself.
People can defend him all they wish to but, when doing so, I respectfully suggest that they at least rely upon facts. Failing which, to me, they sound little more than apologists for someone that appears to be hell bent upon avoiding facing charges of sexual assault.
People can defend him all they wish to but, when doing so, I respectfully suggest that they at least rely upon facts. Failing which, to me, they sound little more than apologists for someone that appears to be hell bent upon avoiding facing charges of sexual assault.
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Remember how that case against Ghomeshi fell apart because certain subsequent behaviours were not consistent with what would normally be associated with assault victims?
All that stuff (and more) was involved in this case too and, remember, they didn't even complain about assault, they just wanted him to take an STD test.
But I remember this coming up before. I don't think anything new has occurred.
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And if the USA had never, not once, done something without following due process and all the rest of it, then that might mean something.
Remember how that case against Ghomeshi fell apart because certain subsequent behaviours were not consistent with what would normally be associated with assault victims?
All that stuff (and more) was involved in this case too and, remember, they didn't even complain about assault, they just wanted him to take an STD test.
But I remember this coming up before. I don't think anything new has occurred.
Remember how that case against Ghomeshi fell apart because certain subsequent behaviours were not consistent with what would normally be associated with assault victims?
All that stuff (and more) was involved in this case too and, remember, they didn't even complain about assault, they just wanted him to take an STD test.
But I remember this coming up before. I don't think anything new has occurred.
If you are able to produce any credible evidence that the US, when requesting extradition against a person in the UK, did not take the appropriate legal route before "hauling them off" I would accept your proposition. However, the evidence suggests that, when the US seeks extradition against those living in the UK for things such as Assange alleges they want him for, they have followed due process.
Here is one that supports my position: Extradition to the US
Over to you
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We may as well read the last thread on it as I don't think anything knew has come to light since then.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/maple...ention-871863/
Well that wasn't really what I said was it. You suggested that because the USA had not sought extradition there was no likelihood of them being in cahoots with Sweden and having him taken to America.
Now I can't lay my hands on any documents from the security services as evidence but it's a widely held belief that the US has been in cahoots with at least one nation previously over very similar matters although Guantanamo might not be the intended destination on this occasion.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/maple...ention-871863/
Now I can't lay my hands on any documents from the security services as evidence but it's a widely held belief that the US has been in cahoots with at least one nation previously over very similar matters although Guantanamo might not be the intended destination on this occasion.
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That isn't true. The danger for him the whole time has been that he might be snatched by the US and hauled off into the ether. Alleged crimes in Sweden have never been the real issue behind his asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy and Swedish police will interview him there next week regarding those charges.
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Interesting debate...
Doesn't anyone remember the precedence of Maher Arar?
He also wasn't requested for extradition by the USA, nor the Syrians, but still we Canadian tax-payers had to fork out C$10.5M compensation and offer a humiliating apology from our elected leader.....because nobody was paying attention to what 'can and does' go on behind the scene.'
Talk about due process and diligence..... my ASS.
Doesn't anyone remember the precedence of Maher Arar?
He also wasn't requested for extradition by the USA, nor the Syrians, but still we Canadian tax-payers had to fork out C$10.5M compensation and offer a humiliating apology from our elected leader.....because nobody was paying attention to what 'can and does' go on behind the scene.'
Talk about due process and diligence..... my ASS.