401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Apr 26th 2019, 5:35 pm
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! http://livetrucking.com/this-north-a...-in-the-world/
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world.
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
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Apr 26th 2019, 7:06 pm
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
The 400 going up to Barrie used to be a real bad one in the 70's, not just because of traffic, but because it was a 2 lane road when they could have used twice the space or even more. Often, when someone had an accident they'd have 50 strangers join in, in a deadly chain-reaction.
Apr 26th 2019, 8:36 pm
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And people say LA has bad traffic....lol
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world.
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
Apr 26th 2019, 8:58 pm
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
The 400 going up to Barrie used to be a real bad one in the 70's, not just because of traffic, but because it was a 2 lane road when they could have used twice the space or even more. Often, when someone had an accident they'd have 50 strangers join in, in a deadly chain-reaction.
with trucks barrelling down the hill.https://goo.gl/maps/edEDAMusK7E5wkv39
Apr 27th 2019, 12:04 am
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world.
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
Apr 27th 2019, 5:06 am
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
Having used Google Image Search it appears to be in China, or Australia, or Canada, lol... 
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Apr 27th 2019, 1:27 pm
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
I did read the article but discounted the content based on the picture being wrong. I think the busiest road in north America is in Mexico City and wondered if that was the one in the picture. It's not the 401 because it has vegetation and topography, not warehouses, big box stores and housing projects.
Apr 27th 2019, 2:07 pm
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Re: 401 lane discipline.....or lack of!!
I did read the article but discounted the content based on the picture being wrong. I think the busiest road in north America is in Mexico City and wondered if that was the one in the picture. It's not the 401 because it has vegetation and topography, not warehouses, big box stores and housing projects.
https://www.bricoleurbanism.org/whim...-good-its-bad/
Apr 27th 2019, 2:13 pm
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Apr 27th 2019, 2:16 pm
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I looked through 12 pages of mad-maddie's tumblr blog (lightweight fashion, memes, cartoons, and cat videos) and it wasn't there so did a duckduckgo image search of hwy 401 and found it (even though it's I-405 in Los Angeles).
Apr 27th 2019, 3:03 pm
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The advice given to me by my driving instructor many years ago and reinforced in a defensive driving course in the '70' s in the UK still holds good today here in Canada ( and everywhere else?) Is to treat everyone else on the road as an idiot!....or potentially one...... No offence meant.....
Apr 27th 2019, 5:53 pm
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16 lanes at the widest, I think. Several people on this team commute along it, I think they'd vociferously protest against the idea that it has minimal accidents. According to my disgruntled colleague here there's typically a delay due to a crash three journeys a week (out of eight trips). Note that that's commuting against the traffic. A major argument for people working at home is that otherwise they'd have to take the 401 and so have a powerful incentive to find another job.
I have to say that I don't care for coming down the 410 on to the 401 and then taking the 427 south, I'm always relieved to have made the necessary 25 or 30 lane changes without a collision. I commuted that way for a couple of years and saw frequent fist fights between frustrated drivers. It doesn't help, of course, that the road has been dug up since I've been in Canada.
The QEW is hardly better. I shake my head at the idea that immigrants would consider living in Oakville. That's 3 or 4 hours a day of misery before considering that, when you're not stuck on the motorway, you're in Oakville.
I have to say that I don't care for coming down the 410 on to the 401 and then taking the 427 south, I'm always relieved to have made the necessary 25 or 30 lane changes without a collision. I commuted that way for a couple of years and saw frequent fist fights between frustrated drivers. It doesn't help, of course, that the road has been dug up since I've been in Canada.
The QEW is hardly better. I shake my head at the idea that immigrants would consider living in Oakville. That's 3 or 4 hours a day of misery before considering that, when you're not stuck on the motorway, you're in Oakville.
It is indeed!
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Brilliant photo of it on this article - and actually it's the busiest highway in the world! This North American highway was named the "busiest road in the world"
https://2ndchanceautoinsurance.ca/40...north-america/
Known as King’s Highway 401, the freeway also goes by its official name of the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. A 400-Series Highway in the Canadian province of Ontario, the 401 stretches from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is not only the busiest highway in North America but also one of the widest and busiest in the world.
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
.... the annual average daily traffic (AADT) count between Weston Road and Highway 400 in Toronto was estimated at 431,900. On some days, the number exceeds 500,000 vehicles.....
Back then it's peak was 400,000 cars for daily traffic while the M25 around London at it's busiest was a mild 250,000.
I can't imagine the 401 being the busiest now with the size of some of those Chinese cities and the infrastructure laid but it'll probably be quite some time before we have fully accurate data.
It only gets worse with the obsession of building towers and inability and fighting between the different tiers of government that kills every transit initiative that is ever proposed.
Apr 27th 2019, 6:12 pm
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Advice was always to "Watch the wheels. Indicators lie. Hand signals lie. But wherever the wheels are pointed, that's where and if it's going".
Apr 27th 2019, 6:24 pm
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In 2004/2005 I drove the busy stretch of the 401 everyday as I lived at Yonge/Eglinton and worked at Hurontario. It didn't matter if there was an accident as between about 8.15 and 9.15 everyday you'd be sitting still at points just due to sheer volume and poor exiting and entering.
Back then it's peak was 400,000 cars for daily traffic while the M25 around London at it's busiest was a mild 250,000.
I can't imagine the 401 being the busiest now with the size of some of those Chinese cities and the infrastructure laid but it'll probably be quite some time before we have fully accurate data.
It only gets worse with the obsession of building towers and inability and fighting between the different tiers of government that kills every transit initiative that is ever proposed.
Back then it's peak was 400,000 cars for daily traffic while the M25 around London at it's busiest was a mild 250,000.
I can't imagine the 401 being the busiest now with the size of some of those Chinese cities and the infrastructure laid but it'll probably be quite some time before we have fully accurate data.
It only gets worse with the obsession of building towers and inability and fighting between the different tiers of government that kills every transit initiative that is ever proposed.
3 routes go past our place, if your taking transit downtown between 7am and 8:30am, quite common for 2,3,4 buses to go past with Sorry Full before a bus has room and stops.
Transit is also not 24/7 here, so leaves shift workers doing early mornings or late nights no choice but to drive if they want to get to work, or home after work. I have 2 co-workers who are off work at 1am, but sit at the airport until 5 something waiting for the first train to depart as they are off work 4 minutes after the last train leaves for the night.
Apr 27th 2019, 6:29 pm
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A brother in law was giving us a tour around the Toronto area back in '68 , and I believe we were on the 401 with everyone going really fast and only a couple of lengths between cars (it seemed fairly dangerous to me). All of a sudden he stood on the brakes and we skidded to a stop just feet from the car in front. They had a flat rear tire, and my b-i-l had seen it blow, and applied his brakes before they even knew there was a problem. Defensive driving was the main focus of the school driving course I took in 1970 as well as the Canadian National Railway driving course I took later. My military license (DND 404) was issued with no instructions or test and I had to type it out myself because everyone was busy getting a convoy together. I asked something about defensive driving in the 2 1/2 ton 6X6 I was going to drive (as I'd never driven anything like that before) and was told "Just use the horn and everyone will get out of your way; it's got a great horn."