TALK THE TALK. ITALIAN LANGUAGE QUESTIONS.
Jan 7th 2015, 1:51 pm
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Re: TALK THE TALK. ITALIAN LANGUAGE QUESTIONS.
My kids grew up with me and a few trips to England where my parents, sisters, aunts, cousins are etc.
They grew up with the never ending English : please , thank you, may I, excuse me, pardon, etc.
Both of them have naturally seemed to translate these little every day words into Italian. They are now both known as two of the most polite kids in school.
When Chloe's elementary teacher first said to me how polite she is and how nice, I just said "no she's not, that's normal for us. I know us English have a bit of a reputation for being fixed on Ps and Qs - she translated those things herself into her everyday Italian."
All of her teachers, both old and young have commented on it but the nicest one was an old teacher about to retire. When I said "that's us in England fixated on manners" she told me that in all her years she has seen hundreds of kids but if only half of them had said thank you when getting a piece of new paper or something she would never have had to correct so many kids.
When I half jokingly said to the same teacher that it was that British thing and manners and stiif upper lip and all that she seriously said to me -
"Signora - don't ever change and don't let anybody here tell you different. I think you're doing a fantastic job and if we had more kids like yours the classroom would be different. Don't let anybody tell you that you are doing things the wrong way."
It was the nicest compliment I have ever had here !
They grew up with the never ending English : please , thank you, may I, excuse me, pardon, etc.
Both of them have naturally seemed to translate these little every day words into Italian. They are now both known as two of the most polite kids in school.
When Chloe's elementary teacher first said to me how polite she is and how nice, I just said "no she's not, that's normal for us. I know us English have a bit of a reputation for being fixed on Ps and Qs - she translated those things herself into her everyday Italian."
All of her teachers, both old and young have commented on it but the nicest one was an old teacher about to retire. When I said "that's us in England fixated on manners" she told me that in all her years she has seen hundreds of kids but if only half of them had said thank you when getting a piece of new paper or something she would never have had to correct so many kids.
When I half jokingly said to the same teacher that it was that British thing and manners and stiif upper lip and all that she seriously said to me -
"Signora - don't ever change and don't let anybody here tell you different. I think you're doing a fantastic job and if we had more kids like yours the classroom would be different. Don't let anybody tell you that you are doing things the wrong way."
It was the nicest compliment I have ever had here !
Rudeness is something I found that stood out [in my face] when I first moved to Toronto Canada 48 years ago. Coming from a basically all white christian society at the time & finding myself in the middle of a multicultural society that had the 'give me', no please or thanks you. Even today after being away so long, I find it difficult at times to the point of frustration to anger. Then I shake my head to remember that I do not live in the UK. Canadians are known to be polite, yet too me its all BS, especially since its mostly in the major centres 'an all immigrant population'. Not too much [should I say] home grown
Toronto is probably one of the most diverse cities in the world, the visible minorities make up almost 46% of the population, there are ~465,000 of Italian origins with 166,000 claiming Italian is their first language. In the last census report, is said that 20 different languages spoken as they being the first language.
http://www1.toronto.ca/city_of_toron...ckgrounder.pdf
We have little Italy, Portugal, China town, Asia pockets, Indian & Pakistani. Depends on the day, where I'm going to be - I have to wear & be in my multicultural mannerisms mode.
I can find myself now not being polite, definitely sharp, rude to the point, do the ignore - even the 'can I have' or a 'give me one of those' to a simple 'how much' - all without courtesy.
All interesting what you mentioned about language & society living in Italy... fascinating read this thread
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Feb 2nd 2015, 7:32 am
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Re: TALK THE TALK. ITALIAN LANGUAGE QUESTIONS.
Having a brain dead moment folks.
What sounds best to you?
the family still personally follows the manufacturing / manufacture of their boots
In Italian the word is 'produzione' but I've already used the word production earlier in the sentence. The Italian author of the article might be okay with using the exact same word twice in one sentence but, I don't like to.
Thanks x
What sounds best to you?
the family still personally follows the manufacturing / manufacture of their boots
In Italian the word is 'produzione' but I've already used the word production earlier in the sentence. The Italian author of the article might be okay with using the exact same word twice in one sentence but, I don't like to.
Thanks x
Feb 2nd 2015, 7:38 am
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Re: TALK THE TALK. ITALIAN LANGUAGE QUESTIONS.
Having a brain dead moment folks.
What sounds best to you?
the family still personally follows the manufacturing / manufacture of their boots
In Italian the word is 'produzione' but I've already used the word production earlier in the sentence. The Italian author of the article might be okay with using the exact same word twice in one sentence but, I don't like to.
Thanks x
What sounds best to you?
the family still personally follows the manufacturing / manufacture of their boots
In Italian the word is 'produzione' but I've already used the word production earlier in the sentence. The Italian author of the article might be okay with using the exact same word twice in one sentence but, I don't like to.
Thanks x
I'd say manufacturing, or manufacturing process.
Feb 2nd 2015, 7:42 am
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Morning and thanks. Manufacturing was what I'd originally written and then I had one of those is it right - is it wrong moments. I'm off to make more tea. Too early I suppose for anything stronger.
Bootmaker's is a perfectly acceptable word isn't it?
Bootmaker's is a perfectly acceptable word isn't it?
Feb 2nd 2015, 7:51 am
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Drop of milk, no sugar thanks.
Feb 2nd 2015, 7:59 am
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Too many manufacture and production in this paragraph already for my liking so I might stick with bootmaker's .... calzaturificio ...... bootmaker's because they don't make shoes, they specialise in hiking boots and climbing boots, trekking and all things mountaineering for your feet.
Tea's brewed. Help yourself from the pot.
Tea's brewed. Help yourself from the pot.
Feb 2nd 2015, 8:02 am
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Too many manufacture and production in this paragraph already for my liking so I might stick with bootmaker's .... calzaturificio ...... bootmaker's because they don't make shoes, they specialise in hiking boots and climbing boots, trekking and all things mountaineering for your feet.
Tea's brewed. Help yourself from the pot.
Tea's brewed. Help yourself from the pot.
You pour...we don't want twins!
Feb 2nd 2015, 8:23 am
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Re: TALK THE TALK. ITALIAN LANGUAGE QUESTIONS.
I would go for Everest Base Camp as the proper noun. That is what is on most the treking sites.
Feb 2nd 2015, 8:33 am
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