ciquta

If you get minima means you didn't pay all the taxes due, i don't need to know how and why but you didn't.
Instead I am paying a huge amount of taxes and i won't probably get more than you, for sure not at your age, so you really can't blame me for anything.

I love southern italy and their people, but -as you well know- you have a lot to blame yourself for your situation, not italy not europe.

In what country of the world you would get more than that with 30 years of contributions at 35quids a week? Maybe in cuba, not in UK for sure.

gioppino

Why do you have to blame somebody all the time? It's typical DM attitude, you are not cut out to be an expat.

All state economies at one point go belly up. All modern state economies are based on unlimited debt expansion and are meant to fail.

The biggest technically insolvent state in the world is the USA, however nobody blames the lazy-ass Americans, do they?

Renzi is just a puppet but he's been there for 4 months, how can you blame him for 70 years of bad government?

ononno

If I were a terron, which I'm not, I would be deeply offended by your remarks. Since I'm a thick skinned Brit. I'll just say that I have probably paid more tax in my lifetime than you could hope to earn in yours. No hard feelings :-) It's just my nature not to suffer fools gladly.
bye bye dicette l'inglese.

highlander1

please read the message again, it was referring to something that gioppino wrote !
What the heck it has to do with DM or being an expats ?
Or do you reckon that the moment you become an expat, you have to take leave of your senses and never dare criticizing the place you now live ?
Get real, wake and smell the coffee.

highlander1

Renzi is just a puppet but he's been there for 4 months, how can you blame him for 70 years of bad government?[/QUOTE]

If you read my previous posts you will see that I have being BLAMING very much the past 70 years of hopeless goverments.

gioppino

Yes I know you're a grumpy fart with your finger always pointed to somebody to blame.

gioppino

I am actually a 'terrone' (a term I hate and that doesn't apply to me because I am not a land worker, terrone= terra = land) and I am deeply offended by ciquta's remarks.

I would advice ciquta not to move abroad because he would be one of those self loathing Italians who do more harm than good.

modicasa

To me its a basic theory thing. The Italians do bloods, the UK not. Italians do their blood pressure at the drop of a hat, the Brits not. Italians doctors prescribe cortisone as though its smarties, thankfully the UK not. Personally I think the Italians idea of doing bloods is very sound - getting your cholesterol bloods costs 14 euros, the same as you would pay doing a test in a UK supermarket and the results are more reliable. It makes sense - if you feelunwell checking your blood will probably give you a head start on a diagnosis, whereas in the Uk the GP's tell you to go home and see if it gets better in a week or so...

ciquta

Gioppino,what remark did "deeply" offend you?!?

I am abosolutely in love with southern italy and its people, I have been more than a hundred times I can tell you sometimes I'm feeling more at home when I'm there.

I apologize if something offended you, trust me it wans't my purpose.

modicasa

Ciquta - you classed all southern italians as being responsible for the problems they have. Thats what people find offensive.
I have loads of northen Italian clients who come here because they love it and feel at home here, and then spend their entire time telling everyone why southern Italy is such a mess, and why the people are lazy and why business doesnt work. You cant have it both ways.

highlander1

Your post is really nice, an education for us all.

Thank God humanity has such shiny examples like yourself, our life would be very diminished if you were not here,Thank again gioppino

fleetwoodmac1975

Cameron is good at PR, the UK public finances are shot. The welfare system is broke, hence all these new parties like ukip coming up. Something like that in 1997 would have been unthinkable.
Lets see what happen when the 20 plus billion Trident needs refinancing....I think that a country that feels superior to these south European peasants should not spend 20+ billion on nuclear weapons which would be absolutely useless and are no deterrent whatsoever...

The NHS is good....for the doctors that work in it...ie. 100k a year plus hence the many mercenaries that flock to work in it from all corners of the world (including some of our brightest who got Uni education for almost free in Italy and then go and work for the NHS, yet they haven't paid then usual 20k private school +9k tuition fees...). Social mobility in the UK = lol. The class divide in the UK is entrenched in society.

Self loathing Italian immigrants in the UK, I know many of these. The worst species ever, they spit in the plate which has given them a social class free education, and sometimes they end up doing worst jobs in the UK than had they stayed in Italy...

fleetwoodmac1975

He has apologized no need to exaggerate over his comments.
A lot of people should apologize on here for the crap they have been talking about Italy for the past few months...

highlander1

A lot of people should apologize on here for the crap they have been talking about Italy for the past few months...[/QUOTE]

Hear, hear!

ciquta

I didnt' mean to be offensive, I just think the people living there is at least co-responbile, just like us in the north have a big responsability over our problems.
We dont' have a royal family, we voted all those politicians.

Learn from the mistakes would be a huge step forward