New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
Mar 16th 2009, 8:17 am
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
Mar 16th 2009, 11:00 am
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
My original post has brought me some insults. Fair enough, I'm a big boy. I don't post any statistics to justify my opinion; it's what I have picked up from the media, IT forums, personal experience and those of my colleagues and friends.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
Mar 16th 2009, 11:09 am
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
My original post has brought me some insults. Fair enough, I'm a big boy. I don't post any statistics to justify my opinion; it's what I have picked up from the media, IT forums, personal experience and those of my colleagues and friends.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
but what do i know i`m only an electrical contractor working in south qld
Mar 16th 2009, 12:28 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
My original post has brought me some insults. Fair enough, I'm a big boy. I don't post any statistics to justify my opinion; it's what I have picked up from the media, IT forums, personal experience and those of my colleagues and friends.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...52#post7384052
PS
My 2 best friends both in the construction game (Carpenters) been working for the last 3 years on 457 and have just lodged their ENS last week phoned Agent/DIAC after yesterdays news in a panic...... but were told that CSL does not apply to ENS 856 and because their companies are sponsoring them and they already have a job they should be sweet.
Last edited by man_called_Horse; Mar 16th 2009 at 12:47 pm. Reason: PS added
Mar 16th 2009, 2:10 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
My original post has brought me some insults. Fair enough, I'm a big boy. I don't post any statistics to justify my opinion; it's what I have picked up from the media, IT forums, personal experience and those of my colleagues and friends.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
Mar 16th 2009, 2:16 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
This is the most sensible post I have seen in a long time, I fully agree with everything you've said and it is 100% accurate.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
i can say the same thing about accounting. All big accounting firms have hiring freeze or are laying ppl off. If you are an accountant/auditor and especially coming straight from third world country, be aware. Australia is not a bed of roses
Mar 16th 2009, 2:24 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
This is the most sensible post I have seen in a long time, I fully agree with everything you've said and it is 100% accurate.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
Mar 16th 2009, 2:24 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
This is the most sensible post I have seen in a long time, I fully agree with everything you've said and it is 100% accurate.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
so if you reckon professinal development is a high priority in ur life, its better than you stay away from australia.
Mar 16th 2009, 4:50 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
Some posters in here have commented about their high skill level in fields such as IT or other professions . I think australia is a great place to live but is not necessarily best place for professional development. I think that australia is decades behind europe and especially North America.
so if you reckon professinal development is a high priority in ur life, its better than you stay away from australia.
so if you reckon professinal development is a high priority in ur life, its better than you stay away from australia.
Mar 16th 2009, 4:51 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
This is the most sensible post I have seen in a long time, I fully agree with everything you've said and it is 100% accurate.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
IT has been hit really hard here (I work for a huge global IT service provider in a role which has a focus around staffing levels) the market here is flooded with applicants for any roles that do exist and the volume of roles is virtually zero at present.
Your absolutely right those coming from what's previously been refered to as a "third world country" would be well advised to save your money and remain where you are, you will find it near on impossible to secure work here and it is an expensive place to live without work.
I can see towards the end of this year this whole forum being full of people complaining and slagging off the system because they came over, paid for their visa and didnt manage to find work. Be warned.
Mar 16th 2009, 5:19 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
Guys what you are saying might be a fact but its not that only Australia is affected, its a global problem now. and I see no reason sort listing the applicants like you said. Because companies know these people are more or equally qualified than applicants and employees from your said locations ( What should call the bunch...First World Country!) and they can be hired with lesser salary. ultimately IT pros from developing countries are optimum options considering current global economic meltdown.
Mar 16th 2009, 5:23 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
My original post has brought me some insults. Fair enough, I'm a big boy. I don't post any statistics to justify my opinion; it's what I have picked up from the media, IT forums, personal experience and those of my colleagues and friends.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
To some of my detractors; if you still waiting to get your visa and arrive, you know nothing about the job market here. Almost everywhere has a hiring freeze, is looking at outsourcing or is making people redundant. The contractor market has basically died. I'm in a good permanent job but that could go tomorrow. [And I'm in a good position; 20 years of aussie/uk experience across many fields backed with an engineering degree].
Another poster has alluded to those coming from "third-world" countries; in effect anyone who is not from the UK/Europe/US or has doesn't have a few years experience there - you WILL find it very hard to find a job; companies here mainly look for "local" experience first; then they will look at overseas experience in the above named locations; anywhere else really doesn't matter. That may indeed be rascist in outlook; but it's the way things are here.
ANYONE who is looking to emigrate to Australia; unless you have a good, solid job offer with a PR visa, you are taking a big risk. Australia is an expensive place to live and you won't get any money out of the government.
Sincere apologies to those who heart.
Well, in such horrific situation in Australia, it is better to stay in your home country. I have now decided to withdraw my application. May be in future I would apply again when situation comes better.
After all, I love my home country even it is third world country.
Mar 16th 2009, 5:26 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
I didn't mean to heart any body, may be I got disturbed with these changing policies and job market.
Sincere apologies to those who heart.
Well, in such horrific situation in Australia, it is better to stay in your home country. I have now decided to withdraw my application. May be in future I would apply again when situation comes better.
After all, I love my home country even it is third world country.
Sincere apologies to those who heart.
Well, in such horrific situation in Australia, it is better to stay in your home country. I have now decided to withdraw my application. May be in future I would apply again when situation comes better.
After all, I love my home country even it is third world country.
Mar 16th 2009, 5:37 pm
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Re: New CSL has been posted on IMMI.gov.au
I didn't mean to heart any body, may be I got disturbed with these changing policies and job market.
Sincere apologies to those who heart.
Well, in such horrific situation in Australia, it is better to stay in your home country. I have now decided to withdraw my application. May be in future I would apply again when situation comes better.
After all, I love my home country even it is third world country.
Sincere apologies to those who heart.
Well, in such horrific situation in Australia, it is better to stay in your home country. I have now decided to withdraw my application. May be in future I would apply again when situation comes better.
After all, I love my home country even it is third world country.
Please bear in mind that this is just a forum for people to crib and share. People generally are comfortable being at extreme sides. It is no wonder that on this forum, you would have found some of the people saying there is absolute guarantee of job for IT professionals in AUS and anybody differing from this viewpoint deserves to be shot at point blank. The other set of people have written off the IT industry in AUS and they are seem to be suggesting that if you are an IT professional, either stay away from AUS or start thinking over changing the profession. And It being on CSl is a big big mistake on DIAC's part. To me truth lies somewhere in the middle or somewhere else. I worked in IT division of ANZ in Melbourne in 2006 and was very much in demand in those days. I came back due to personla reasons otherwise I was booked for that project till 2009 May. But I know this is not 2006 but rather 2009. What I was interested in that when AUS IT industry is going to recover to the levels of 2006. Maybe 2009 end, 2010, 2011? I'm open for frank answers and I believe people on ground zero will certainly have more visibility on this.
Also, if you are basing your decisions on the basis of talks on a public forum, you are going to have a tough time in this world.. I must tell
Thanx
Husain
