Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
Aug 19th 2009, 1:43 pm
#61
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
YUp, you'd have thought that wouldnt you, but thats why it was delayed the first time - we were due to satrt on a Thursday but the Judge said he expected it to last 3days and therefore he couldnt hear it, as 1 judge has to sit thru the entire case. The reasons the other delays took place were:
1. Witnessess unavailable on certain dates
2. Pressure of other cases - ie they couldnt allocate a "slot" in which to hear the case.
We came back in September 2006 and then finally heard the case in March 2007 by which time everyone was so bored i offered to pay the "victim" compenation as we were - u guessed it - heading for ANOTHER delay.
Thats the English Court system for you. God Bless the HMCS, their worth every penny.
1. Witnessess unavailable on certain dates
2. Pressure of other cases - ie they couldnt allocate a "slot" in which to hear the case.
We came back in September 2006 and then finally heard the case in March 2007 by which time everyone was so bored i offered to pay the "victim" compenation as we were - u guessed it - heading for ANOTHER delay.
Thats the English Court system for you. God Bless the HMCS, their worth every penny.
Aug 19th 2009, 9:50 pm
#63
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
Alanb
Aug 19th 2009, 10:15 pm
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
Very strange for a simple case
Aug 20th 2009, 10:54 am
#66
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
And you jump on me!!
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Aug 20th 2009, 12:32 pm
#67
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
His attitude hasnt stopped others on here breaking their neck to offer help & solutions to get in into Canada though has it.
Mind you, in other forums I often see people post, generally from the US, saying, "I have a drunk driving conviction, how do I sneak across the border?". My response is discouraging and only on the verge of remaining polite!
Someone commented on the length of time it took to hear the case. 17 months is actually getting too long. Most jurisdictions have a limit to how long someone should wait to be heard and will discharge the accused if it is 'too long' by that jurisdiction's definition.
Aug 20th 2009, 12:43 pm
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
I noticed that. I suspect we tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. It was also, at least to me, quite interesting to explore a part of the process I didn't know about.
Mind you, in other forums I often see people post, generally from the US, saying, "I have a drunk driving conviction, how do I sneak across the border?". My response is discouraging and only on the verge of remaining polite!
Someone commented on the length of time it took to hear the case. 17 months is actually getting too long. Most jurisdictions have a limit to how long someone should wait to be heard and will discharge the accused if it is 'too long' by that jurisdiction's definition.
Mind you, in other forums I often see people post, generally from the US, saying, "I have a drunk driving conviction, how do I sneak across the border?". My response is discouraging and only on the verge of remaining polite!
Someone commented on the length of time it took to hear the case. 17 months is actually getting too long. Most jurisdictions have a limit to how long someone should wait to be heard and will discharge the accused if it is 'too long' by that jurisdiction's definition.
The guy made a mistake, he was charged and elected to go to crown court. It seems to me that making a person wait that long to get their case heard is excessive, if the guy is truly sorry for what he has done, then surely to get the case heard, pay his dues and get on with life is the best thing all round. If he was a rapist,murderer or child molester then throw him in jail and who cares when his case come's up.
In life we all make mistakes not all criminal I grant you, but when we do something in life that we truly regret, what is so wrong about saying sorry and moving on as soon as possible.
Perhaps me using the word "unfair" was wrong, but eh I am just a softie at heart.
Last edited by Miss Clinique; Aug 20th 2009 at 12:57 pm.
Aug 20th 2009, 12:54 pm
#69
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
geez, a bit harsh..... i can't believe that breaking someone's window is a 10yr max for a start....
Canada is big on its charter of rights and freedoms, i don't know if there would be a way to approach it from that angle.
Canada uses common law so it would have to be based on some legal precedent.
Canada is big on its charter of rights and freedoms, i don't know if there would be a way to approach it from that angle.
Canada uses common law so it would have to be based on some legal precedent.
Aug 20th 2009, 1:30 pm
#70
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
I have the memory of the attack and the scar on my face to remind me of it. Whether they regret it or not means nothing to me. Maybe i can empathise with the "neighbour" more than the OP so am slightly biased.
The OP has not released the full story so maybe i'm being too harsh. Either way, no amount of apologies and regret will get him into Canada as a PR within the next decade. Sucks but you make your bed..............
Aug 25th 2009, 2:46 pm
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
I understand what you're saying but having experienced an irate neighbour, i would personally enjoy seeing them fail in life whether they're sorry or not.
I have the memory of the attack and the scar on my face to remind me of it. Whether they regret it or not means nothing to me. Maybe i can empathise with the "neighbour" more than the OP so am slightly biased.
The OP has not released the full story so maybe i'm being too harsh. Either way, no amount of apologies and regret will get him into Canada as a PR within the next decade. Sucks but you make your bed..............
I have the memory of the attack and the scar on my face to remind me of it. Whether they regret it or not means nothing to me. Maybe i can empathise with the "neighbour" more than the OP so am slightly biased.
The OP has not released the full story so maybe i'm being too harsh. Either way, no amount of apologies and regret will get him into Canada as a PR within the next decade. Sucks but you make your bed..............
As i understand from my Lawyer after 5 years i can apply for rehabillitation and re-apply for PR visa.
Can i ask you why you say i wont get in the next decade? My Lawyer says that after your 5 yrs ahve expired and Rehab applied for, the next 5yrs you are effectively "on probation" in Canada.
Anyway. The neighbour if u must know had been harrasing me and my two mates for 3 months AND hassling the landlord - we decided to leave and then guess what - the neighbour bought the part of the house we lived in - sounds like a plan. Poor old neighbour hey...
Aug 25th 2009, 3:36 pm
#72
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
Sorry to hear u had a hard time wiv your neighbour. I didnt start this thread to discuss what happened on the night - rest assured no one was harmed - maybe alarmed but not not harmed.
As i understand from my Lawyer after 5 years i can apply for rehabillitation and re-apply for PR visa.
Can i ask you why you say i wont get in the next decade? My Lawyer says that after your 5 yrs ahve expired and Rehab applied for, the next 5yrs you are effectively "on probation" in Canada.
As i understand from my Lawyer after 5 years i can apply for rehabillitation and re-apply for PR visa.
Can i ask you why you say i wont get in the next decade? My Lawyer says that after your 5 yrs ahve expired and Rehab applied for, the next 5yrs you are effectively "on probation" in Canada.
hehehe, the cheeky monkey.
Sep 10th 2009, 12:30 pm
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
hi, dunt worry
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Sep 10th 2009, 12:56 pm
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
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Sep 10th 2009, 5:16 pm
#75
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Re: Rejected and Banned for Life from Canada by the CIC
My understanding is that if the maximum sentence in Canada is 10 years or less ;
After 5 years you can apply for rehab (5 years after conviction for the offence, or prison term/probation/suspension etc ends, - which ever the latter) .
After 10 years it is automatically deemed spent.
So, you'll either have to wait till 2012 or get a lawyer and prove that the damage was less than $5000 - the lawyer route looks appealing.
M.
After 5 years you can apply for rehab (5 years after conviction for the offence, or prison term/probation/suspension etc ends, - which ever the latter) .
After 10 years it is automatically deemed spent.
So, you'll either have to wait till 2012 or get a lawyer and prove that the damage was less than $5000 - the lawyer route looks appealing.
M.