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Old Apr 13th 2021, 10:57 pm
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Hello, my boss has written me a letter for cec and It states (shift supervisor, retail) will this work when applying un 6211 sales supervisor, retail?

Would it be better to ask for an adjustment of title?

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Old Apr 13th 2021, 11:37 pm
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Default Re: Noc CEC, shift supervisor vs sales supervisor, retail

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Hello, my boss has written me a letter for cec and It states (shift supervisor, retail) will this work when applying un 6211 sales supervisor, retail?

Would it be better to ask for an adjustment of title?

Cheers
Look at applicable NOC codes and what the duties are and see if you perform more than 50% of the duties.

https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/Noc...6SHjiO6SIFOKkw
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Default Re: Noc CEC, shift supervisor vs sales supervisor, retail

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Hello, my boss has written me a letter for cec and It states (shift supervisor, retail) will this work when applying un 6211 sales supervisor, retail?

Would it be better to ask for an adjustment of title?

Cheers
What does your contract state for title and your duties? That will be the determining factor, as detailed in an earlier thread. Ontario Nominee Program / PNP info

https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/Noc...HVDlNz7tDvbcW6

I can't remember if you are in the Express Entry pool or not, and if you are hoping to gain PR under the Canadian Experience Class or are hoping to get in with the Job Offer for Ontario PNP'?

When do you meet the required 2 years experience in that NOC if you wanted to apply for Ontario PNP? I don't think a Cannsell certificate would count as a mandatory License, unfortunately. (think of it as you needing a license to work such as a doctor, a plumber or a mechanic would be required to have.. you don't need a license to be a Sales Supervisor)
To meet the work experience requirement, you must have at least two years of cumulative paid full-time work experience (or the equivalent in paid part-time work) in the same occupation (same National Occupational Classification code) as your job offer.

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Default Re: Noc CEC, shift supervisor vs sales supervisor, retail

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What does your contract state for title and your duties? That will be the determining factor, as detailed in an earlier thread. Ontario Nominee Program / PNP info

https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/Noc...HVDlNz7tDvbcW6

I can't remember if you are in the Express Entry pool or not, and if you are hoping to gain PR under the Canadian Experience Class or are hoping to get in with the Job Offer for Ontario PNP'?

When do you meet the required 2 years experience in that NOC if you wanted to apply for Ontario PNP? I don't think a Cannsell certificate would count as a mandatory License, unfortunately. (think of it as you needing a license to work such as a doctor, a plumber or a mechanic would be required to have.. you don't need a license to be a Sales Supervisor)

I'm planning to enter EE pool for CEC hoping for another big draw as I only have 280ish points even with max celpip scores I got the other day.
I wont quite hit the 2year mark before my IEC work permit runs out.
So my company got bought out, we all got fired and then rehired right away so I have retail sales supervisor as my contract from october.
I have a signed letter from my boss stating I'm shift supervisor, retail, from the date I originally joined the company, over a year ago. I'm sure he will change it if I ask, do you think I should?


thanks as always for the advice, is there any way I can contribute to the site?
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Default Re: Noc CEC, shift supervisor vs sales supervisor, retail

I don't know if you have seen this - but looking at the essential worker list it includes some retail positions!

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...e.html#annex-b

To be eligible, workers must have at least 1 year of Canadian work experience in a health-care profession or another pre-approved essential occupation. International graduates must have completed an eligible Canadian post-secondary program within the last 4 years, and no earlier than January 2017.

Effective May 6, 2021, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) will begin accepting applications under the following 3 streams:
  • 20,000 applications for temporary workers in health care
  • 30,000 applications for temporary workers in other selected essential occupations
  • 40,000 applications for international students who graduated from a Canadian institution
Eligible Essential worker list - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...e.html#annex-b

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I don't know if you have seen this - but looking at the essential worker list it includes some retail positions!



Eligible Essential worker list - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...e.html#annex-b

hmm when I first read it elsewhere I thought a diploma+ was required but not according to this. How do I apply, just as normal thought EE but add both retail sales supervisor 6211 to get into cec and 6211+6421 as I fit into them aswell to get into this new rollout?
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Default Re: Noc CEC, shift supervisor vs sales supervisor, retail

Originally Posted by Eterna123 View Post
hmm when I first read it elsewhere I thought a diploma+ was required but not according to this. How do I apply, just as normal thought EE but add both retail sales supervisor 6211 to get into cec and 6211+6421 as I fit into them aswell to get into this new rollout?
It’s not an EE stream, it’s a stand alone program. So you’ll need to apply separately (online, as per the link above when the program opens next month).

HTH, best of luck.
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It's open! https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...r-pathway.html Online Application
Eligible essential occupations (there are hundreds, but this one would apply to you I think)
NOC Occupation
6611 Cashiers
6621 Service station attendants
6622 Store shelf stockers, clerks and order fillers
6623 Other sales related occupations
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