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Kurakot Sep 18th 2001 5:09 am

Some tactics used by lawyers may be valuable. Some may have to do with true legal
issues and others may be the miscarriage of justice.

Immigration is not a legal proceeding, it is an administrative one. There are still
rules of fair play and somewhat less of these tactics.

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Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com
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Quote: 'Immigration is not a legal proceeding, it is an administrative one.'

I really don't know whether this is coming from Berto's mouth or his ass.
JESUS CHRIST.

Toxicfungi Sep 18th 2001 11:28 am

The last I heard, that there was only one Jesus Christ, the one from the Bible, never
knew he conversed with humans via newsgroups. Sounds like an arb way to communicate.
With that being said, lets keep this newsgroup for discussions on immigration to
Canada, and not the belittleing of others, even if they clearly are in the wrong.

that my 2p :) hehe

have a nice day.

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Kurakot Sep 18th 2001 5:29 pm

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What is so repulsive about BERTO is he claim to be the 'DIRECTOR, OPIC EDUCATION
COMITTEE CHAIRMAN.'

Is the Chairman or Director of OPIC EDUCATION COMMITTEE?

What's the thruth?

He does not even know the difference between Employment Authorization and Visa. Now,
he is claiming administrative law is not a legal matter because rules and standards
are different.

bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

STUPID BOY

Berto Volpentesta Sep 18th 2001 11:24 pm

I know quite well who and what I am.

And you are?

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Berto Volpentesta Sep 18th 2001 11:34 pm

Perhaps a more formal discussion would benefit those who wish to partake = of the
information given in this group.=20

Any question as to my authenticity can be easily verified. =20

Please be advised that it is quite easy to hide behind the web of = anonymity, but
even comments made in discussion groups may be construed = as slanderous, liable
and/or defamatory and it is easy enough to find = the perpetrator.

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com


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Berto Volpentesta Sep 18th 2001 11:36 pm

In addition, the B.A. Specialized Honours was in Public Policy and = Administration
wherein I completed studies on Immigration Policy, = International Relations and
Foreign Policy, and National Security and = Defence Policy.

Care to compare.

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Kurakot Sep 19th 2001 4:44 am

Tell us the difference between EA and visa?

Tell us the difference between immigration and adminsitrative law?

It's your knowledge of these issues that concerns us. You are benefitting from
immigrants monetarily but your posts indicate your knowledge in the subject of
immigration is not sufficient or questionable.

Misleading the public is also an offense. A serious immigration offense.

It's easy to refer this matter to CANADA IMMIGRATION other regulatory authorities.






Perhaps a more formal discussion would benefit those who wish to partake of the
information given in this group.

Any question as to my authenticity can be easily verified.

Please be advised that it is quite easy to hide behind the web of anonymity, but even
comments made in discussion groups may be construed as slanderous, liable and/or
defamatory and it is easy enough to find the perpetrator.

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Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com


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Kurakot Sep 19th 2001 4:49 am

Read this again, Berto

Employment Authorization is not a visa. Got that?

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The fact that you have made a PR application should not affect the decision on a
temporary entry visa such as EA. Again, you never know. Not all officers appreciate
the dual intent principle.

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Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc.


Perhaps a more formal discussion would benefit those who wish to partake of the
information given in this group.

Any question as to my authenticity can be easily verified.

Please be advised that it is quite easy to hide behind the web of anonymity, but even
comments made in discussion groups may be construed as slanderous, liable and/or
defamatory and it is easy enough to find the perpetrator.

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Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com


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Kurakot Sep 19th 2001 5:00 am

"Immigration is not a legal proceeding."

Shove that piece back where it came from. You're giving OPIC a bad rap. Do you want
this piece in the press or the law society?



Perhaps a more formal discussion would benefit those who wish to partake of the
information given in this group.

Any question as to my authenticity can be easily verified.

Please be advised that it is quite easy to hide behind the web of anonymity, but even
comments made in discussion groups may be construed as slanderous, liable and/or
defamatory and it is easy enough to find the perpetrator.

--
Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com


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Berto Volpentesta Sep 19th 2001 10:55 am

Perhaps you could explain the difference as you see it and enlighten us = all with
your proven expertise.

You can feel free to do with my remarks anything you wish. I am very = well equipped
to defend any statement I have made.

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Berto Volpentesta Sep 19th 2001 10:58 am

Interesting.

One would think from your constant intercessions in this group that you = would have
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--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Berto Volpentesta Sep 20th 2001 12:37 am

That's wonderful, when did you pass. Did you top any of the modules. I = suppose
someone ass cleaver as you topped them all.

I don't think I will take the course. Once was enough. Did quite well = for the work
I put into it. Found it a little elementary though.

I am quite pleased with the direction of the proposed Act, especially = with respect
to the practioner. Particularly, if the hard work of OPIC = (www.opic.org) over the
decade pays off and licensing is finally brought = about.

That would take all you wannabes and preposters such as travel agents = and former
grocery store owners out. Opps. Have I offended you or some = of your friends?

Still haven't seen your post regarding your qualification on anything. = Much less
immigration matters.

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Berto, don't waste your time on this nonsense. You should be proud to be a target of
personal attacks on m.i.c, it puts you in a very good company - among such
distinguished individuals as David Cohen and Andrew Miller.

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People often confuse anonymity with untraceability. I believe that a call to the BC
offices of Excite@Home can unearth our friend "kurakot".

On the other hand, why bother?

Here's a free consultation for you. Since you are using Outlook Express, try these
keystrokes in succession: alt-t, r, n, <down-arrow>, <space>, <tab>, <space>, <tab,
<down-arrow>, <enter>, k, u, r, a, k, o, t, <enter>, <enter>, <enter>. Guaranteed to
save you aggravation or your money back!

Here's another free consultation. Redo your web site and throw out the Active/X
stuff. You are losing the visitors that use browsers that don't support Active/X. I
could recommend a good web design company but I'd like to keep this newsgroup free of
advertisements. Email me if you're interested.

Best regards, Alex.

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S Wittman Sep 20th 2001 2:35 pm

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could you two please stop the dicksizing, or at least take it to email?

tia

SW

Berto Volpentesta Sep 21st 2001 2:07 am

Certainly. Sorry the outburst.

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Education Committee Chairman

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[usenetquote2]> >I suppose someone ass cleaver as you topped them all.[/usenetquote2]
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