RN1

yeah that!

Sjt53

and it's bad enough with another race but f**k me a monster from outer space

gibsonslanding

erm! i'm white, british born but have an ethnic background, i do have a 'high ranking degree' that i no longer use in my completely different 'job', and i have tried for years to learn both french and spanish.....and fail at every turn......Oh! and i'm moving to canada......accordingly, i must be stupid, ethnic and thick, right?

maleabs

I am a highly qualified IT Professional with very good level of both English (IELTS 7) and French (TEF 4-5) But it seems that canada needs people with less qualifications.

Damn it.

RN1

I think you got the wrong end of the stick with that one. No one was calling anyone "thick," "ethnic" or "stupid."

You're moving to a place where you can speak the langauge anyway. If you were intending to move to France/French Canada or Spain then I would say you should learn the langauge. I suspect that being intelligent you would learn it quick enough if you lived the life. My parents have managed it in Spain & they're no spring chickens - it's all about integrating, as they have. If you integrate you'll learn but if you ghetto yourself you won't.

bazzz

But it's not the same in Canada. There are huge communities that operate almost entirely in languages other than English or French. If one chooses to live in one of these places, then they'll not suffer much if they don't speak one of the official languages. And they can still be happy contributors to the Canadian economy.

desertbuddy

I agree bazz, and as a matter of fact, lots and lots of them do contribute to the economy even though they are not considered part (or what they call fully integrated)of country by some people here.

MarkG

And that kind of ghettoization is a problem, not something that should be made worse.

I think it really comes down to two questions that have been raised here before:

1. Is Canada a nation or a hotel?
2. Is immigration intended to be a benefit to Canada as a nation, or a charity program?

You can't hold a nation together for long when the people can't communicate with each other and a sizable fraction of the population live in ghettos outside the majority culture; Canada has had enough problems just with two languages, let alone adding more. No rational government would deliberately make that worse; the only reason we have the current system is because it buys immigrant votes.

desertbuddy

Wake up, reality is that immigration to Canada is not all about the language in totality but other factors as well, that can/will help the immigrants contribute to the economy of the country. Look at those places considered ghettos by some civilized people here; where businesses are booming and contributing in part to the economy of the country.

MarkG

How long do you think Canada can survive if it becomes nothing but a collection of ghettos full of people who can't even talk to each other?

A 'booming economy' won't help the country much if the country itself falls apart.

gibsonslanding

two things.....

canada is made up completely from emmigrants and not that too distant a past either......

and the uk is having a major influx of immigrants from all parts of the world and tongues.....most do contribute to the uk ecconomy etc etc.....

unfortunatley, the uk does insist that at the school age level, that the 'english' learn to speak the different tongues so as to intergrate......personally i have an issue with this as when we move to canada, we will be trying to intergrate into the canadian way and not the other way around, where we expect 'them' to accept our tongue, culture, religion etc etc......actually, we will not have the 'challengies' that some cultures do experience; we're white for a start.......and we are coming over as full time, PNP'd, paid employment, tax paying, financially independant people........

i don't consider myself or any of my family as of any particular culture other than the 'human' kind.......i think that there is more important things in life to worry about than race, colour or creed.......russia's threatening to 'nuke' poland for f**k's sake......

Sjt53

Oh sh*t I missed that in the news, better warn my polish employee

bazzz

How's it a problem? Toronto and Vancouver seem to function pretty well. Vancouver is allegedly one of the most "liveable" cities in the world.

JamesM

Yes that is accurate according to United Nations Research that I have read. Indeed Toronto is regarded as the most multi-cultural city in the World and 12th best with regards to living. Vancouver is the best city in regards to living I do not know it's multi-cultural status.

Those stats might not be 100% accurate as they are redone every year.

Obviously everyone in this conversation knows Canada is a great place to live hence why so many of us are trying to get in.

dbd33

<falls off stilleto heels, breaks ****in neck>