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Old Dec 27th 2021, 8:59 am
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If the hob is rated 3500 watts, that is maximum demand if all features are on at 100%.

Circuit breakers have trip curves - they should not trip at rated value, but will instantly trip at 3 to 5 times for B type breakers (5 to 10 times for C type).

You can google the trip curve for your breaker, but it will likely carry twice the rating for almost a minute.

Assuming the wiring is adequate - at least 2.5mm.

Anyone still having old school fuses should consider replacing them - and also look to have socket outlets / lights protected by RCD's (protection from earth faults).
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Assuming the wiring is adequate - at least 2.5mm.
Here the typical domestic wiring is 1.5mm protected by a 16A breaker (or fuse) and wired in radial circuits from the consumer unit. Power and lights share the same line.
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Originally Posted by FenTiger
We're nowhere finding an architect and we really need the kitchen updated. I think it's commonsense to build new extension, them update kitchen and add fittings to the extension. But ... as mentioned ... there may be some delays before any work starts so despite my wife doing a brilliant job cooking with a Ninja 9 in 1, microwave and an additional slow cooker we have I thought maybe we should buy an electric twin/dual induction hob to make things a bit easier. I think eventually she will start to get tired of balancing things, hence the induction hob.
Looking at the wattage ... a twin/dual uses 3500 watts. Will there be a problem plugging into a normal socket?
For the time being why don't you buy a double plate electric hob? I used one for years when I lived in an apartment with a tiny kitchen. I also had a small DeLonghi table top oven and a microwave and could easily cook a meal for four people.

https://www.alza.hu/sencor-scp-2254bk-eue4-d6362992.htm


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Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary
Here the typical domestic wiring is 1.5mm protected by a 16A breaker (or fuse) and wired in radial circuits from the consumer unit. Power and lights share the same line.
The maximum current carrying capacity of 1.5mm would be 20A, but more typically only 14 or 15 Amps for an installation so not ideal.

For the hob - agree with checking what else is on circuit - and limit power setting to 90% if 1.5mm wiring (or less if other devices on circuit need to be powered). That should be achievable by turning one side on first and waiting to at temp before using second side, or not using at highest heat setting if variable.

Fuses can take longer to blow under fault conditions - and may not blow at all with 1.5 to 2 times rating (or even higher depending on type) which leads to damage to the wiring. Always better to upgrade to MCB's for that reason.
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Default Re: Twin/Dual Induction hob

Originally Posted by Sachina
For the time being why don't you buy a double plate electric hob? I used one for years when I lived in an apartment with a tiny kitchen. I also had a small DeLonghi table top oven and a microwave and could easily cook a meal for four people.
https://www.alza.hu/sencor-scp-2254bk-eue4-d6362992.htm
Looking at site, that has a rating of only 2500W - much better suited to the circuit as described (max current draw is just under 11Amps).
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Does the fact that Hungary only has a nominal 220V AC supply, change the current draw?
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Originally Posted by ecurb
Does the fact that Hungary only has a nominal 220V AC supply, change the current draw?
See the information in the attached link. It should answer your question. Hope this helps.


Moderator The link is NOT intended to sell or endorse a company, It is only posted for informational purposes regarding electrical theory and calculation in regards to electrical current requirements and use.

https://www.fluke.com/en/learn/blog/...at-is-ohms-law
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Default Re: Twin/Dual Induction hob

Originally Posted by ecurb
Does the fact that Hungary only has a nominal 220V AC supply, change the current draw?
Actually since several decades the nominal voltage on the continent has been set to 230 V so all newer appliances can be used in UK and most of Europe
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Default Re: Twin/Dual Induction hob

Originally Posted by wolfi
Actually since several decades the nominal voltage on the continent has been set to 230 V so all newer appliances can be used in UK and most of Europe
Yes, I assumed nominal 230V for current calculation, from EU harmonisation values.

But suppliers have tolerances on that - and there are slight differences on that depending on nominal values before the change.For most of Europe (the former 220V nominal countries), these limits are -10% / + 6% or 207.0 V / 243.8 V and effectively the harmonisation is a label change, not a value change. (For the UK (previously 240V nominal) the limits are reversed: -6% / +10% or 216.2 V / 253.0 V.)

Power ratings are current x voltage (there are other formula, but this works.) so for 3500 W, at 220V current is 3500/220 = 15.9 Amps (and for the 2500 W hob, current would be 11.4 Amps).
So at 220V, current is a little higher using this calculation but not significantly - and the initial power rating may be based on the nominal 230V value anyway.
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