You are talking total B*ll*cks and clearly have no idea what the situation is in India (and more specifically in Goa that thinks it is a law unto itself), at the present time.
The scenarios you are quoting are so out of date it defies belief, and such concepts as;

Come on, get real! Sue the hyper-corrupt Goan Government? Or the government of India? How many lifetimes do you have to spend? The Oh so Obvious criminally negligent situation in Bhopal just got a typical brush it under the carpet response,,,,,,,why? Because Indian babus have absorbed most of the compensation...........typical!

Probably things are very different in the Carribean, but you are posting on a Goa, India, Asia, long way from the the Carribean, forum...................so please tell us Just re-read that gibberish.............what exactly are you trying to get over here? What is "Grandfathered" ?
And more importantantly, please give us a hint as to any idea what "Businesses which have a full 100% FDI in certain industry vertical are very narrowly allowed to buy property which will house their business a.k.a IBM and Oracles of the world." might possibly mean?

From your reaction I gather you have been had My sympathies. Obviously something don't compute here Either you are a legal resident or you are not. If you have to leave every 180 days then you are just a tourist

If Government of India changed the rules after you'll bought the property, you could be grandfathered. My company was kicked out of India in 1977, it was allowed to sell and dispose of assets (and that was a reactionary government) We came back in '92 and I am sure our legal team in Delhi keeps our interests in mind

I did not know there was a restriction on which sub-forum I could post, is there ? They are all former colonies, all corrupt, all dislike former colonizers .. so what else is new ?

Wanna buy the Brooklyn Bridge ?

I have heard that someone has just come back with an employment visa. The got it because they do voluntary work for animal rescue. Any truth in this.

More likely to be an X- visa. Yes you can get them for doing voluntary work!

What seems unfair is that they are giving them for animal rescue, but not for people working with the local children, which seems

Probably because they seem to put animals before humans !!
Let's face it, they allow the packs of wild dogs to roam and the cow is sacred, yet human life seems cheap.

Dread - x

Seems that's changed - you now need an 'E' (~£400!) - various threads about it here and on IM.

AndyD 8-)#

Well folks, I haven't been on here for a while but seems the visa issue is getting worse. My partner and I applied on the 2nd August for our usual business visa which we have had the past 3 years. To say we got the run-around is to put it mildly. We flitted back and forth from VFS to the consulate. Problems ranged from not knowing which visa we should get to our paperwork not being right (supplied all relevant papers including latest accounts). Eventually, after 5 days solid of been knocked from pillar to post they agreed it was a business visa! Brill we thought, until we handed all in to be processed. They accepted mine but refused my partner as they didn't think they would have enough time to process his - he needed his passport back for Saturday which gave them 5 working days! FFS! We even agreed to pay the extra £75 for an urgent visa but they still would not entertain us. I still don't have my passport back but not panicking yet as not flying out until end of the month.
We will not have to worry about it next year as I will be selling up and moving out!

MHA FAQ

I can't find anything on here regarding this reference to Tourist visas and foreigners having a residence. Have I missed it?

see my reply to Goangoangone #1706 here

AndyD 8-)#

From Lokita at the FCO.

Hi Noni,

We are aware that the Government of India had not accepted the proposed amendments to the Registration Act, 1908 which were sought to be made under The Registration (Goa Amendment) Bill, 2008. What is currently happening in the Goa Assembly is the legislative process to withdraw the proposed Bill. Our understanding of the implication of this is that all registration of property in India, including in Goa, should now be done as per the provisions of the Section 17(1) of The Registration Act of 1908.

We would also take this opportunity to urge British nationals in Goa concerned about issues regarding their property to complete the proforma that has been posted on http://ukinindia.fco.gov.uk/en/help-...ving-in-india/ .The British High Commission can then discuss the generic issues that arise with the Government of Goa's designated representative in a bid to identify potential measures to resolve these issues.


*QUOTE from Peter Beckingham
Thank you for your email of 22 August. I understand the diffficulties
and anxieties you and others face over the property disputes in Goa.
I know that our High Commissioner met a group of affected UK representatives earlier this year; I would be happy to do the same if I have any more information about developments to give to those concerned. I know that our High Commission believed that the pro-forma you refer to might be useful; I was sorry to hear that you doubt its value. - Peter "

I think they're being wildly optimistic here because:
i) The Amendment Bill never even became law.
ii) The Registrars were refusing FN registrations well before the Bill was drafted
iii) I won my case against the Registrar in the Fast-track Court but the govenment of Goa have just appealed this to the High Court - they would hardly do that if "registration of property ... should now be done as per the provisions of the Section 17(1) of The Registration Act of 1908."
Sorry, but none of this explains why we should fill in the pro-forma - a large number of people have already given the BHC details of their cases, and they have already discussed 'generic issues' with the Chief Minister.
I am quite prepared to fill in the pro-forma if someone will just tell me what's in it for me/ us!

AndyD 8-)#

I understood in your case the Govt. of Goa had missed the deadline to make an appeal, therefore the ruling stood and Kamat had assured BHCI and Sir Richard Stagg personally that he would pursue the matter of enforcement.

So a ruling in the Fast Track Court is now being undermined by an appeal to the High Court, and what of Kamat and the BHCI's promise in all of this?

And the question still remains; when are the Government of India going to issue a category of visa that allows foreign owners of property in India (including leaseholders) to travel to India, or are they all to declare themselves as 'Tourists' which, as presently defined, would not allow them to make transfers of property and may even help invalidate their currently assumed position as owners of property and/or persons resident in India.

"...a Tourist Visa can only be granted to a foreigner who does not have a residence or occupation in India.."

Warning to those with a 5 year entry visa issued on basis of Indian origin. The rules have been tightened in last few months. Regardless of how many previous 5 year visas have been held, on renewal you must provide a copy of a relevant old Indian passport, your own or parents, grandparents etc. or a document signed by Gov. of India. The only positive change is that they will now accept an affidavit signed by First Class Magistrate in India re previous nationality.
So without these documents (and many older Indians did not keep copies of their passports) a person of Indian origin legitimately holding owned or inherited property can now only travel to India on a tourist visa. Once there they hopefully can get the necessary affidavit for future use.

Yes, they had missed the deadline by several months, but they applied to the High Court to be allowed to appeal anyway ("condonation") and this was granted, at the same time the original ruling was "stayed". It is fairly clear that the State Govt. is not only prepared to take the case right up to the Supreme Court, but also to delay the procedure as long as possible.

When indeed - my MP has asked the BHC to seek an answer to this, but I'm not holding my breath.

I feel quite strongly that when individuals have to take on a foreign government to get their clear legal rights then HMG should be prepared to do something to help!

AndyD 8-)#