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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Vagatorian
(Post 7444403)
http://www.express.co.uk/haveastory
[email protected] [email protected] Here`s a few e-mails to get started, no way should this person be allowed in the UK, disgusting :curse: |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Daff
(Post 7432116)
We don't think that the majority of the people on the London streets were there to have a party bagaboy :sneaky: What's more people were warned all week via all the media outlets not to go to London this week. Didn't see too many police with metal canes beating the c**p out of people at the Notting Hill carnival last year. They probably lifted a few drug pushers but good luck to them. That's something else that Goa has consistently failed to get to grips with :thumbdown:
If you think that the likes of VJM are going to help us when even our own government won't, then you are either in cloud cuckoo land or you are an alien. You live in a dream - we live with the reality :curse::curse: |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by noni
(Post 7435959)
B
Bagaboy, welcome to the site, all points of view are appreciated, although you must be living in cloud coo coo land if you think VJ can help us when his own garden is being eroded by the River Princess which is been outside his villa for near 10 years. Who is going to speak to Mickey, we have enough problems, not being able to sell our Villa without speaking out and having our visa's withdrawn. Deeds Registered, Director of Environment inquiry, and being invited to appear before the D of E what a wonderful season. The local people have no idea what the foreigners are going through, but they are now asking why not so many people are coming to Goa. They had no idea the property and visa issue. Next year it is going to be even worse, but then they will blame the credit crunch, Mumbai bombings anything except, the service and harassment foreigner are having |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by bagaboy
(Post 7454422)
Noni -- I come in peace --- and Noni , thats the 2nd time that you have welcomed me to the site --- I was returning to Goa after many years away , and I came on --- just to ask a simple ? , and well I was basically chased , and husshed away , as an undesirable ---- albeit , in a friendly way --- but all the same , I was made to feel unwelcome ----- and me a Goan !!!! Anyway I started reading all your stories and posts --- And Noni , I am sad to say that , I understand your position ----
We really didn't mean to hush you away,but we have faced and are facing many problem.Im glad you understand our position Goa is not the Goa we knew and loved,It also makes us very sad:(:(:(:(You are welcome and Im sure you as many Goans are unaware of what we have been through and still living the nightmare for many of us tied into property |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by bagaboy
(Post 7454422)
Noni -- I come in peace --- and Noni , thats the 2nd time that you have welcomed me to the site --- I was returning to Goa after many years away , and I came on --- just to ask a simple ? , and well I was basically chased , and husshed away , as an undesirable ---- albeit , in a friendly way --- but all the same , I was made to feel unwelcome ----- and me a Goan !!!! Anyway I started reading all your stories and posts --- And Noni , I am sad to say that , I understand your position ----
You need not feel unwelcome on this site as everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I agree our Politicians are pants, especially Vaz who surprisingly claimed the most expenses. Yes, we have turned to our politicians for help in the property matter,and they don't want to know. As I have said before, my true Goan friends are there for us every holiday, and us for them. But I have no time for those who try to fiddle us. Once they try - that is it. I will get on a bus rather than pay the taxi fare which is first quoted, even when he comes down to my price, just out of anger and disgust. Same with shops, one place wanted 650rups for the plastic bangles in Calengute, I had a right dicky fit with them, much to the amusement of the people in the bar next door. I got them then in Mapsa for 50 rups. We all having something to give to the BE site and can all learn from other peoples mistakes in Goa, so please feel free to pass your comments, and do not take things personally. We must all agree to differ on certain things. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Sorry Noni and GC, but I really don't understand why you are apologising to this person?
None of us want to see the site being exclusive about who is a British Expat and who is not, but at the very least they should "feel" British, This person clearly does not, with his references to "your" police and "your" government. His whole tone is inflamatory with the odd sympathetic remark thrown in to diffuse the building anger. To try to compare our police force with the un-educated, underpaid idiots here is plain insulting. When did he last get stopped on the road and drive off after paying a "standard" bribe? When did he last encounter a busy, clogged road junction and find the officer in charge sitting in the shade ignoring it all? When did he last report a crime and be told to go away? Or that a large bribe would be required to even start the paperwork. Not in the UK that's for sure! Our government may be inadequate, but at least they try. For the last 2 years the government here has been non-existent. The last session of parliament was scheduled to last 4 days - yes 4 out of their annual 20 days - but at the last minute was cut to 2, and both of those to start after lunch! Come on, get real guys. At present their is a lot of bad press about UK MP's maximising their expenses, but 99% of it is within the law. Here the MLA's don't even try to conceal the bribery and corruption anymore. The media is mentioned also, as an advisory body as to whether we should travel to any given destination. Well mate, if a place is cr*p, thats what they will print. If it was great there would be no point? He also refers to the independence of the Goan press? Like hell! A few years back if a politician was criticized (rare event) he would moan like hell in all the other papers about his "ill-treatment" and often infer that he would make sure that heads would roll. All that has changed as those in power have realised that the local media is impotent against them. Now the local media simply mentions the clear corruption, as if in passing. Names are named, details printed, nothing happens. They are clearly un-touchable. "Innocent until proven guilty?" Yes in a country that ensures that justice takes place. Here it is very very unlikely that the case will come to court as the accused have threatened and intimidated the victims, and their lawyer to the extent that they have fled back to Germany/resigned. If by some strange quirk it did come to court, the Indian legal system will ensure that it drags on for years in the hope that everyone will get fed up and go away. Why should the German Government get involved? In the UK? Involving Ingo? What a load of twaddle. It's an offence committed in India, by an Indian accused, but sadly India, and especially Goa has proved again and again that justice is just a word here. It may be OK to have a bit of a diversion on here, it takes everyone's mind off the bad things maybe, but I personally (and this is a purely personal view) find this contributor insulting and uninformed in the extreme, and strongly suspect he is getting his kicks from winding us up. What used to be called Trolling I believe........and we didn't apologise to them! |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by johnny five
(Post 7455810)
Sorry Noni and GC, but I really don't understand why you are apologising to this person?
None of us want to see the site being exclusive about who is a British Expat and who is not, but at the very least they should "feel" British, This person clearly does not, with his references to "your" police and "your" government. His whole tone is inflamatory with the odd sympathetic remark thrown in to diffuse the building anger. To try to compare our police force with the un-educated, underpaid idiots here is plain insulting. When did he last get stopped on the road and drive off after paying a "standard" bribe? When did he last encounter a busy, clogged road junction and find the officer in charge sitting in the shade ignoring it all? When did he last report a crime and be told to go away? Or that a large bribe would be required to even start the paperwork. Not in the UK that's for sure! Our government may be inadequate, but at least they try. For the last 2 years the government here has been non-existent. The last session of parliament was scheduled to last 4 days - yes 4 out of their annual 20 days - but at the last minute was cut to 2, and both of those to start after lunch! Come on, get real guys. At present their is a lot of bad press about UK MP's maximising their expenses, but 99% of it is within the law. Here the MLA's don't even try to conceal the bribery and corruption anymore. The media is mentioned also, as an advisory body as to whether we should travel to any given destination. Well mate, if a place is cr*p, thats what they will print. If it was great there would be no point? He also refers to the independence of the Goan press? Like hell! A few years back if a politician was criticized (rare event) he would moan like hell in all the other papers about his "ill-treatment" and often infer that he would make sure that heads would roll. All that has changed as those in power have realised that the local media is impotent against them. Now the local media simply mentions the clear corruption, as if in passing. Names are named, details printed, nothing happens. They are clearly un-touchable. "Innocent until proven guilty?" Yes in a country that ensures that justice takes place. Here it is very very unlikely that the case will come to court as the accused have threatened and intimidated the victims, and their lawyer to the extent that they have fled back to Germany/resigned. If by some strange quirk it did come to court, the Indian legal system will ensure that it drags on for years in the hope that everyone will get fed up and go away. Why should the German Government get involved? In the UK? Involving Ingo? What a load of twaddle. It's an offence committed in India, by an Indian accused, but sadly India, and especially Goa has proved again and again that justice is just a word here. It may be OK to have a bit of a diversion on here, it takes everyone's mind off the bad things maybe, but I personally (and this is a purely personal view) find this contributor insulting and uninformed in the extreme, and strongly suspect he is getting his kicks from winding us up. What used to be called Trolling I believe........and we didn't apologise to them! Hi Milwart :wub: I certainly have not apologised in any way to Bagaboy, he might write like a dalek, but he is entitled to his say. I have just pointed out to him what I think of Goa and how hurt we are. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by johnny five
(Post 7455810)
Sorry Noni and GC, but I really don't understand why you are apologising to this person?
None of us want to see the site being exclusive about who is a British Expat and who is not, but at the very least they should "feel" British, This person clearly does not, with his references to "your" police and "your" government. His whole tone is inflamatory with the odd sympathetic remark thrown in to diffuse the building anger. It may be OK to have a bit of a diversion on here, it takes everyone's mind off the bad things maybe, but I personally (and this is a purely personal view) find this contributor insulting and uninformed in the extreme, and strongly suspect he is getting his kicks from winding us up. What used to be called Trolling I believe........and we didn't apologise to them! He hasn't told us anything we don't know and some of the information he has posted is incorrect. I don't believe I apologised though,I never make a habit of apologising to anyone with the exception of my friends,I don't even apologise to the OH:rofl::rofl: I am concerned about this site excluding people and becoming clickie!!!! DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER PLEASE!!!! I can only say what I have heard in the past from people that wanted to contribute to this site but felt after their first post that they were not welcome make of this what you will but I don't feel it is good if people are feeling like this after all who will contribute to the site when we all get out of Goa GC:rofl: |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by bagaboy
(Post 7454422)
Noni -- I come in peace --- and Noni , thats the 2nd time that you have welcomed me to the site --- I was returning to Goa after many years away , and I came on --- just to ask a simple ? , and well I was basically chased , and husshed away , as an undesirable ---- albeit , in a friendly way --- but all the same , I was made to feel unwelcome ----- and me a Goan !!!! Anyway I started reading all your stories and posts --- And Noni , I am sad to say that , I understand your position ----
He asked about bars as a holidaymaker and was politely pointed towards Holiday Truths (sic), by Emsirrah, and TripAdvisor by Noni as being more suitable. He thanked them for the advice, commenting on HT being "more lively" and "talking about all sorts". Find me any hint of this person being treated the way he describes? That was it until the latest batch. I suggest you read them all again (I did before writing the above long post). According to those first posts, he should be here at this moment, but I don't get a sense of that from the posts! The last thing I would like to see on here is a clique. If we want that there is always HT, innit? As I was typing this a thought crossed my mind that I might know who this is..............but not sure? |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by johnny five
(Post 7456442)
Can I suggest you read the first two posts from this person, referred to above?
He asked about bars as a holidaymaker and was politely pointed towards Holiday Truths (sic), by Emsirrah, and TripAdvisor by Noni as being more suitable. He thanked them for the advice, commenting on HT being "more lively" and "talking about all sorts". Find me any hint of this person being treated the way he describes? That was it until the latest batch. I suggest you read them all again (I did before writing the above long post). According to those first posts, he should be here at this moment, but I don't get a sense of that from the posts! The last thing I would like to see on here is a clique. If we want that there is always HT, innit? As I was typing this a thought crossed my mind that I might know who this is..............but not sure? GC:thumbup: |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Goacrazy56
(Post 7456462)
As I said don't shoot the messenger J5 but I have just gone over his threads as you suggested and I think you are right.Sometimes it is easy to forget what was in fact posted by someone until you go back into the them.I would be very interested to know who you feel this person could be Maybe we should make you up to a MOD like noni
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by bagaboy
(Post 7454360)
Excuse me !!!! What happened to one of the fundamentals of basic human rights , Innocent until proven guilty ---- Anyway -- as it was a German national involved , the German Police have every right to "Arrest" said person upon arrival in the UK , under EU law . Now , I bet the German Police are praying that he does get his Visa !!!! ----- Wasnt Ingo a German , --- Maybe Ingo will be at Heathrow --
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
This is Britain gone bl**dy mad.They cannot help any of us in Goa that are being harassed and discriminated against but they can actually get this to court and get compensation for these Inidans.This makes my blood boil:curse::curse::curse::curse:What bl**dy hardship,what about the hardship we have been put through and all we get back from the UK |Government is we cannot get involved in Individual cased
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/uk...ionals/444393/ |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Goacrazy56
(Post 7467586)
This is Britain gone bl**dy mad.They cannot help any of us in Goa that are being harassed and discriminated against but they can actually get this to court and get compensation for these Inidans.This makes my blood boil:curse::curse::curse::curse:What bl**dy hardship,what about the hardship we have been put through and all we get back from the UK |Government is we cannot get involved in Individual cased
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/uk...ionals/444393/ |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 7467685)
It's a pity there is not enough of us to bring that sort of action in India regarding the retrospective change of rules.
. there has been no change in the rules, retrospective or otherwise - they've just decided to ignore the rules! AndyD 8-)# |
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