In To-day's Newspapers
Oct 14th 2012, 3:54 pm
#5836
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
What about the health and safety issues as well. The electric cables strung across the roads, the workmen who do not have a plug on their electric drills so just stick the wires in the socket and the driving. My sister in law went to Goa once but got so scared travelling that she will not go back.
Oct 15th 2012, 2:46 am
#5837
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
So you favour deporting UK citizens who are suspected of crimes. Which ones? All crimes, or only some of them? All the suspects, or only some of them?
Oct 15th 2012, 9:57 am
#5839
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Mortuary! absolutely disgusting.
Oct 15th 2012, 12:27 pm
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Oct 15th 2012, 4:45 pm
#5844
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
These 'hate speeches' encourage terrorism so yes, I would count making them as a form of terrorism. Why should we keep people in the UK, feed clothe and house them at the cost of our taxes when they want to destroy the system which allows free speach and equality.
Oct 15th 2012, 4:49 pm
#5845
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
However undesirable they may be.
Terrorism won't go away because we ship our citizens around the globe at the behest of other powers.
Who else would you ship out? BNP members? Would Arthur Scargill have been deported? The Greenham Common women? Anyone who stands up at Speakers' Corner and mouths off against the government?
Where do you start, and where do you stop? Who decides who goes and who stays? Who decides which "requests" for extradition will be honoured and which will not? Which countries are acceptable destinations and which are not?
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Oct 15th 2012, 5:08 pm
#5846
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Because "they" are British citizens?
However undesirable they may be.
Terrorism won't go away because we ship our citizens around the globe at the behest of other powers.
Who else would you ship out? BNP members? Would Arthur Scargill have been deported? The Greenham Common women? Anyone who stands up at Speakers' Corner and mouths off against the government?
Where do you start, and where do you stop? Who decides who goes and who stays? Who decides which "requests" for extradition will be honoured and which will not? Which countries are acceptable destinations and which are not?
However undesirable they may be.
Terrorism won't go away because we ship our citizens around the globe at the behest of other powers.
Who else would you ship out? BNP members? Would Arthur Scargill have been deported? The Greenham Common women? Anyone who stands up at Speakers' Corner and mouths off against the government?
Where do you start, and where do you stop? Who decides who goes and who stays? Who decides which "requests" for extradition will be honoured and which will not? Which countries are acceptable destinations and which are not?
Oct 15th 2012, 5:16 pm
#5848
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
We have an extradition treaty with numerous countries of which the USA is only one example - Having agreed an extradition treaty, the terms of that treaty and the offences covered you can't then renege on that agreement because you think the conditions they are being held in are too harsh or indeed for any other reason. If you disagree in principle with extradition, that's fine and is your view but what you can't do is pick and choose whom, for what and when extradition treaties can be envoked so as to comply with your particular views.
Oct 15th 2012, 5:21 pm
#5849
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
We have an extradition treaty with numerous countries of which the USA is only one example - Having agreed an extradition treaty, the terms of that treaty and the offences covered you can't then renege on that agreement because you think the conditions they are being held in are too harsh or indeed for any other reason. If you disagree in principle with extradition, that's fine and is your view but what you can't do is pick and choose whom, for what and when extradition treaties can be envoked so as to comply with your particular views.
It might lead one to examine the extradition treaty more closely. As far as I know, nothing prevents a country from demanding change to treaties. Part of the problem seems to be that not much proof of "offences" is required.
http://rt.com/news/extradition-america-mckinnon-uk-029/
It isn't about this one bloke, it's about sovereignty really, despite those pesky waterboarding questions.
Oct 15th 2012, 5:21 pm
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Because "they" are British citizens?
However undesirable they may be.
Terrorism won't go away because we ship our citizens around the globe at the behest of other powers.
Who else would you ship out? BNP members? Would Arthur Scargill have been deported? The Greenham Common women? Anyone who stands up at Speakers' Corner and mouths off against the government?
Where do you start, and where do you stop? Who decides who goes and who stays? Who decides which "requests" for extradition will be honoured and which will not? Which countries are acceptable destinations and which are not?
However undesirable they may be.
Terrorism won't go away because we ship our citizens around the globe at the behest of other powers.
Who else would you ship out? BNP members? Would Arthur Scargill have been deported? The Greenham Common women? Anyone who stands up at Speakers' Corner and mouths off against the government?
Where do you start, and where do you stop? Who decides who goes and who stays? Who decides which "requests" for extradition will be honoured and which will not? Which countries are acceptable destinations and which are not?
Anyone who encourages others to kill or maim is committing a crime. The Greenham common women were not advocating violence as far as I recall and there is no problem with people who protest within the law.